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From: Luis Felipe <sirgazil@zoho.com>
To: MSavoritias <email@msavoritias.me>, Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: About SWH, let avoid the wrong discussion
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 13:45:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <da311dfd-0e99-88cd-61bb-6e75a1dba2f3@zoho.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240621134439.5bc324b4@fannys.me>


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El 21/06/24 a las 10:44, MSavoritias escribió:
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:46:56 +0200
> Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> wrote:
>
>> Am Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 11:14:18AM +0300 schrieb MSavoritias:
>>> Aside from that even Guix uploading all code from the packages to
>>> SWH that basically feeds it to a LLM model is indeed not honoring consent of the author of the package.
>> Guix does not upload code to SWH. It gives them a pointer to a public git
>> repository that SWH then harvests or not according to their rules (see my
>> reply to Dale yesterday). These are not the same things at all.
> This is bikeshedding and arguing on schemantics. Guix gives them a url to download the source code from, so ultimately we (the Guix project) is responsible for the code showing up in there.
> Lets not argue over schemantics like this. It is even posted on their website in case you want to argue otherwise https://www.softwareheritage.org/2019/04/18/software-heritage-and-gnu-guix-join-forces-to-enable-long-term-reproducibility/

I think the differentiation between sending code and sending a URL is 
necessary. Saying that Guix sends your code or your source files to SWH 
leads people to think that Guix *will* transmit those files from your 
local machine over the Internet to SWH machines when you run "guix lint 
YOUR_PRIVATE_PACKAGE". And that's not the case, is it?



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  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-21 16:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-18  8:37 Next Steps For the Software Heritage Problem MSavoritias
2024-06-18 14:19 ` Ian Eure
2024-06-19  8:36   ` Dale Mellor
2024-06-20 17:00     ` Andreas Enge
2024-06-20 18:42       ` Dale Mellor
2024-06-20 20:54         ` Andreas Enge
2024-06-20 20:59           ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2024-06-20 21:12             ` Andreas Enge
2024-06-21  8:41             ` Dale Mellor
2024-06-21  9:19               ` MSavoritias
2024-06-21 13:33                 ` Luis Felipe
2024-06-21 17:51               ` Exclude checker with package properties [draft PATCH] Simon Tournier
2024-06-21 18:37                 ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-06-21 18:44                   ` Simon Tournier
2024-06-21 18:42                 ` Simon Tournier
2024-06-22 15:54                 ` Draft: dry-run + Exclude checker with package properties Simon Tournier
2024-06-20 21:27         ` Next Steps For the Software Heritage Problem Simon Tournier
2024-06-18 16:21 ` Greg Hogan
2024-06-18 16:33   ` MSavoritias
2024-06-18 17:31     ` Greg Hogan
2024-06-18 17:57       ` Ian Eure
2024-06-19  7:01       ` MSavoritias
2024-06-19  9:57         ` Efraim Flashner
2024-06-20  2:56         ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-06-20  5:18           ` MSavoritias
2024-06-19 10:10 ` Efraim Flashner
2024-06-21  8:39 ` About SWH, let avoid the wrong discussion Simon Tournier
2024-06-21  9:12   ` MSavoritias
2024-06-21  9:46     ` Andreas Enge
2024-06-21 10:44       ` MSavoritias
2024-06-21 13:45         ` Luis Felipe [this message]
2024-06-21 14:15           ` MSavoritias
2024-06-21 16:33             ` Luis Felipe
2024-06-21 17:04               ` Msavoritias
2024-06-21 16:34             ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2024-06-21 16:51         ` Vagrant Cascadian
2024-06-21 17:22           ` MSavoritias
2024-06-21 20:51             ` Vagrant Cascadian
2024-06-22 15:46               ` MSavoritias
2024-06-22 17:55                 ` Breath, let take a short break :-) Simon Tournier
2024-06-24  7:30                   ` MSavoritias
2024-06-24 10:23                     ` Tomas Volf
2024-06-24 11:56                     ` Lets cut this off Efraim Flashner
2024-06-21 17:25           ` About SWH, let avoid the wrong discussion Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-06-22 13:06         ` Richard Sent
2024-06-22 14:42           ` MSavoritias
2024-06-22 19:53             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-06-24  7:55               ` MSavoritias
2024-06-24  9:13                 ` Ricardo Wurmus

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