From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Thorsten Wilms Subject: Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines? Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 11:49:23 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87k1m852yc.fsf@gnu.org> <20181024010640.GA14776@antares.lan> <87y3an8xxe.fsf@gnu.org> <20181024142115.GA2088@antares.lan> <20181026233648.0fd1ea35@merlin.browniehive.net> <1540593452.395052.1556179352.51508E84@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20181028194258.773fa475@merlin.browniehive.net> <20181028195054.GA10708@antares.lan> <20181029095913.25aa3829@alma-ubu> Reply-To: t_w_@freenet.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40253) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gH59U-0007Gs-Bc for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 06:52:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gH59R-0003kS-57 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 06:52:08 -0400 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([2001:748:100:40::2:3]:53888) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gH59Q-0003i8-VD for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 06:52:05 -0400 Received: from [195.4.92.165] (helo=mjail2.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID t_w_@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.90_1 #2) id 1gH59P-00080o-4T for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 11:52:03 +0100 Received: from [::1] (port=56758 helo=mjail2.freenet.de) by mjail2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID t_w_@freenet.de) (Exim 4.90_1 #2) id 1gH59P-00042X-3Z for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 11:52:03 +0100 Received: from sub0.freenet.de ([195.4.92.119]:56864) by mjail2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID t_w_@freenet.de) (Exim 4.90_1 #2) id 1gH56q-0001zr-8e for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 11:49:24 +0100 Received: from p200300e4f3eeb30048f6f0ea2f08f740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([2003:e4:f3ee:b300:48f6:f0ea:2f08:f740]:59658) by sub0.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID t_w_@freenet.de) (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305:256) (port 465) (Exim 4.90_1 #2) id 1gH56q-0006nR-5Z for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 11:49:24 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20181029095913.25aa3829@alma-ubu> Content-Language: en-US List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: guix-devel@gnu.org On 29/10/2018 09.59, Björn Höfling wrote: > In law, there is the term of "conduct implying an intent". So even not > signing anything you could argue that by sending a bug or a patch you > silently agree with the community guidelines, CoC, etc. You enter the > community be interacting the first time. And will be judged by their > guidelines. It used to be that you could pick a Free Software project and send a patch. Now sending a patch is supposed to imply agreeing to the equivalent of an EULA? Everyone is expected to welcome that as progress? Again "... we as contributors and maintainers pledge ..." is bullshit. I pledged nothing. More pragmatic and truthful would be: "The project owners expect everyone who contributes to the project by any means, or who communicates via any of the means that belong to the project, to stick to the rules below. Breaking the rules may lead to any of: a warning, rejection of contributions, a ban where and as far as possible." -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/