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From: Andy Wingo <wingo@igalia.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludovic.courtes@inria.fr>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: RPC performance
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 16:19:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cucvanij0gd.fsf@igalia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mv8v55ia.fsf@inria.fr> ("Ludovic Courtès"'s message of "Mon, 26 Jun 2017 13:54:05 +0200")

On Mon 26 Jun 2017 13:54, ludovic.courtes@inria.fr (Ludovic Courtès) writes:

> Andy Wingo <wingo@igalia.com> skribis:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> On Fri 23 Jun 2017 11:24, ludovic.courtes@inria.fr (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
>>
>>> With the current protocol, often we’re just reading a handful of bytes.
>>> Full buffering would mean that Guile would block on an 8K read or so
>>> that will never be fulfilled.
>>
>> That's not how it works :)  The "read" function of a port should only
>> block if no byte can be read.  If 1K bytes are available for an 8K
>> buffer, then the read function should return after filling only 1K
>> bytes; looping to fill at least 8K is some other code's responsibility.
>
> I must be missing something.  With full buffering, when my code does:
>
>   (get-bytevector-n port 8)

Note that get-bytevector-n will block until there are 8 bytes.

> I see read(2) hanging on an 8K read:
>
> #0  0x00007fb0b36baaed in read () at ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S:84
> #1  0x00007fb0b3b91c47 in fport_read (port=<optimized out>, dst=<optimized out>, start=<optimized out>, 
>     count=8192) at fports.c:604
> #2  0x00007fb0b3bbed77 in scm_i_read_bytes (port=port@entry=0x194f700, dst=0x195c000, start=start@entry=0, 
>     count=8192) at ports.c:1544
> #3  0x00007fb0b3bc25fe in scm_fill_input (port=port@entry=0x194f700, minimum_size=1, minimum_size@entry=0, 
>     cur_out=cur_out@entry=0x7ffd7eee5f30, avail_out=avail_out@entry=0x7ffd7eee5f38) at ports.c:2677

Here this indicates that the buffer is empty, and that it's blocking on
receiving *any* bytes at all.

> (That’s not Guile-specific.)  I agree that read(2) could return less
> than 8K and not block, but it doesn’t have to.

I think this is incorrect.  Read returns when it has any bytes at all.
From read(2):

   It is not an error if this number is smaller than the number of
   bytes requested; this may happen for example because fewer bytes
   are actually available right now (maybe because we were close to
   end-of-file, or because we are reading from a pipe, or from a
   terminal), or because read() was interrupted by a signal.  See
   also NOTES.

In short the reason read is blocking for you is that there are no bytes
available -- if there were 8 bytes and only 8 bytes, the read(2) would
return directly.

If you have blocking problems related to 8K buffers, it's likely related
to using get-bytevector-n inside CBIP read() functions.

Andy

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-26 14:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-27 10:56 bug#27097: [PATCH] gnu: Add emacs-direnv Christopher Baines
2017-05-27 11:31 ` Combining Guix, direnv and Emacs for environment customisation Christopher Baines
2017-05-30 15:03   ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-05-30 15:03     ` bug#27097: " Ludovic Courtès
2017-06-01 13:17     ` Roel Janssen
2017-06-03 13:59       ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-06-03 13:59         ` bug#27097: " Ludovic Courtès
2017-06-03 21:08         ` Roel Janssen
2017-06-04 21:15           ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-06-04 21:15             ` bug#27097: " Ludovic Courtès
2017-06-05 22:37             ` Roel Janssen
2017-06-07 10:35               ` Performance on NFS Ludovic Courtès
2017-06-07 13:06                 ` Roel Janssen
2017-06-09 13:46                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-06-12  8:45                     ` Roel Janssen
2017-06-12  8:45                       ` [bug#27097] " Roel Janssen
2017-06-12 15:58                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-06-16 15:23                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-06-17  7:36                           ` Roel Janssen
2017-06-17 22:40                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-06-17 23:15                               ` Roel Janssen
2017-06-18  8:43                               ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-06-19  8:01                                 ` RPC performance Ludovic Courtès
2017-06-19  8:15                                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-06-19 14:25                                     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-06-22 14:03                                     ` Andy Wingo
2017-06-22 16:05                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-06-23  9:09                                         ` Andy Wingo
2017-06-23  9:24                                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-06-23  9:46                                             ` Andy Wingo
2017-06-26 11:54                                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-06-26 14:19                                                 ` Andy Wingo [this message]
2017-06-19 21:25                                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-06-22  8:04                                     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-06-07 11:01               ` Combining Guix, direnv and Emacs for environment customisation Ricardo Wurmus
2017-06-07 12:25                 ` Performance on NFS Ludovic Courtès
2017-06-07 12:59                   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-06-07 12:59                     ` bug#27097: " Ricardo Wurmus
2017-08-29 19:02   ` Combining Guix, direnv and Emacs for environment customisation Thompson, David
2017-08-29 22:30     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2017-08-30  5:52     ` Carlo Zancanaro
2017-08-30 10:09       ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-08-30 10:16     ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-05-28 20:09 ` bug#27097: [PATCH] gnu: Add emacs-direnv Ludovic Courtès

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