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I have been >> saying for a while that there needs to be an option to disable all >> non-trivial local builds by default when you know your machine can't >> handle them. > > IMHO, your proposal is orthogonal with the issue at hand: broken > packages. Other said, the issue is: how to deal with the set of > packages that will not build and we already know it (since weeks, > months or even years for some). > > My workstation can handle all the compilations that are required. My > laptop is able offload to it. The issue about broken packages is not > about the resources. It is about burning resources for nothing. > > About the issue you are speaking about, we already had discussions in > this direction -- you are not the only one saying "the fix needs to do > X" for a while but please keep in mind that "talking does not cook the > rice". ;-) Well, maybe you could open a ticket with a concrete > use-case. > > Cheers, > simon I was hoping to get some consensus on whether this is actually a bug/feature that others consider worth tracking, so I kept discussion of it mostly to guix-devel, but sure, I can make a proper issue for it.