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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.40 X-Spam-Score: -2.40 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 49AD77F921 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-TUID: vxnQcIRxl9Pf On 2024-10-25 13:22, Steve George wrote: > On 25 Oct, indieterminacy wrote: >> On 2024-10-25 11:37, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: >> > Ekaitz Zarraga writes: >> > >> > > Ricardo, I can agree with you but how do you reward just being there >> > > and doing the dirty job? >> > >> > For reviews, for example, one could find an arbitrary set of metrics and >> > hand out an award with a monetary component at an annual event. I'm not >> > speaking of sustainable funding of that work, but of a mechanism to both >> > publicize the importance of the work and to add a social component to >> > recognizing it. >> >> I suppose one could tie the concept of volunteering activity with a >> voucher >> system, >> which could then be pooled/collected with to a Guix theme for funding. >> >> For example, it could well be that patch reviewers have a desire to >> valorise >> a specific activity. >> Getting a specific volume of patches signed off could reach 70% of the >> threshold. >> The remaining 30% is made up from the 'circles' concerning the >> languages Foo >> and Bar. >> >> ... perhaps there are some anarcho-syndicalists out there who can >> recommend >> something more nuanced. > (...) > > There's lots of simple and light-weight methods *IF* there's an > organisational structure that can do it. And really, these things don't > have to be complex. > > FreeBSD and Clojurist Together are great examples of small teams that > provide small grants to support work in areas. So I think there's lots > of ways we could explore the territory and experiment a bit. > They look like good overviews, with even Clojure being accountable regarding amounts. Perhaps the Guix community is going to have to do the most complicated thing of all, and write about ourselves and the interesting things that we do. > Steve / Futurile > > [0] FreeBSD have a simple process for example - > https://freebsdfoundation.org/our-work/grants/ > [1] https://www.clojuriststogether.org/projects/