From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: swedebugia Subject: Re: *** TRYING TO INSTALL GUIXSD v0.15.0 FOR DAYS *** Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 16:27:03 +0100 Message-ID: References: <33017962-EFD3-4931-A7FA-22EC3E25B073@inskydata.com> <87y3ae6k0y.fsf@netris.org> <87tvl17myn.fsf@netris.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37836) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gK3Al-0003HA-Jr for help-guix@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 10:21:46 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gK3Ac-0006ms-P1 for help-guix@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 10:21:40 -0500 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:45581) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gK3AZ-0006k7-Bn for help-guix@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 10:21:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+gcggh-help-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" To: George Clemmer , Mark H Weaver Cc: help-guix@gnu.org Hi On 2018-11-01 01:09, George Clemmer wrote: snip > And, with the current state of the guix infrastructure, even a 'guix > pull' on a fresh vm-image triggers guile bootstrap. And a guile > bootstrap, on the best of days, displays these symptoms: howling CPUs > and hardly any disk activity. > > So, relative to what one expects when installing a distro this feels > hung. Not the most confidence inspiring experience to subject a guix > noob to ;-) > I react a little on the wording of you last phrase. We did not subject anyone to anything. Trying out beta software like guix (especially when our servers are down) and pulling the latest guix commit is in my view (with my earlier guix-experience) asking for trouble. Pulling a commit like the one that points to 0.15 see http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tag/?h=v0.15.0 is far better - I did that 2 days ago with no trouble. No building locally of the few packages I needed on a bare-bone install, berlin had 30-40% of the substitutes available. Thus what we could do to improve the situation is to instruct users to NOT pull the latest guix unless they know what they are doing or are willing to deal with anything that comes up... We do a rolling release with NO testing branch currently. So everybody who pulls the latest and greatest is a tester willingly or not. -- Cheers Swedebugia