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From: swedebugia <swedebugia@riseup.net>
To: George Clemmer <myglc2@gmail.com>, Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
Cc: help-guix@gnu.org
Subject: Re: *** TRYING TO INSTALL GUIXSD v0.15.0 FOR DAYS ***
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 16:27:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cd4c824d-fddb-6078-b25c-61f86815616d@riseup.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cuczhut3bh0.fsf@gmail.com>

Hi

On 2018-11-01 01:09, George Clemmer wrote:
snip
> And, with the current state of the guix infrastructure, even a 'guix
> pull' on a fresh vm-image triggers guile bootstrap. And a guile
> bootstrap, on the best of days, displays these symptoms: howling CPUs
> and hardly any disk activity.
>
> So, relative to what one expects when installing a distro this feels
> hung. Not the most confidence inspiring experience to subject a guix
> noob to ;-)
>
I react a little on the wording of you last phrase.
We did not subject anyone to anything.

Trying out beta software like guix (especially when our servers are 
down) and pulling the latest guix commit is in my view (with my earlier 
guix-experience) asking for trouble.

Pulling a commit like the one that points to 0.15 see 
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tag/?h=v0.15.0 is far better - 
I did that 2 days ago with no trouble. No building locally of the few 
packages I needed on a bare-bone install, berlin had 30-40% of the 
substitutes available.

Thus what we could do to improve the situation is to instruct users to 
NOT pull the latest guix unless they know what they are doing or are 
willing to deal with anything that comes up...

We do a rolling release with NO testing branch currently. So everybody 
who pulls the latest and greatest is a tester willingly or not.

-- 
Cheers
Swedebugia

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-06 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-31 15:42 *** TRYING TO INSTALL GUIXSD v0.15.0 FOR DAYS *** Brian Woodcox
2018-10-31 17:41 ` Leo Famulari
2018-10-31 18:23   ` Brian Woodcox
2018-10-31 18:35 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-10-31 18:47   ` Brian Woodcox
2018-11-01  7:35     ` Mark H Weaver
2018-10-31 20:50   ` Brian Woodcox
2018-10-31 21:54     ` George Clemmer
2018-10-31 22:30       ` Brian Woodcox
2018-10-31 23:44         ` George Clemmer
2018-11-01  2:33           ` Mark H Weaver
2018-11-01  3:35             ` George Clemmer
2018-10-31 22:47       ` Mark H Weaver
2018-10-31 23:57         ` George Clemmer
2018-11-01  0:09           ` George Clemmer
2018-11-06 15:27             ` swedebugia [this message]
2018-11-06 18:24               ` George Clemmer
2018-11-07 11:40                 ` swedebugia
2018-11-07 13:01                   ` George Clemmer
2018-11-07 15:16         ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-11-01  1:35     ` Mark H Weaver
2018-11-01  2:58       ` Brian Woodcox
2018-11-06  5:14       ` Mark H Weaver
2018-11-06 17:08         ` Brian Woodcox
2018-11-06 23:22           ` Brian Woodcox

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