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dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=tugraz.at header.s=mailrelay header.b=dji4TjA3; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=student.tugraz.at (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: AFB011D7F3 X-Spam-Score: -1.32 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: GVNS7HEqMOyb Am Montag, den 29.03.2021, 10:24 +0200 schrieb Maxime Devos: > On Mon, 2021-03-29 at 10:07 +0200, Leo Prikler wrote: > > [...] > > > > In a similar manner, if I see an Emacs version upgrade at the start > > of > > the transaction, I already know to prepare for a little environment > > variable dance to get it to start correctly. I think there has > > been an > > idea to update environment variables in GNOME Shell directly, for > > instance, but > > a. we're lacking the technology to do so at the moment (e.g. guile- > > dbus) > > Actually, we do have dbus bindings for guile (actually, a > reimplementation > of dbus in (Guile) Scheme): guile-ac-d-bus. It doesn't support file > descriptor > passing (at least on Guile, other Schemes may differ) though, but > that's > probably not required for this. Thanks for pointing this out! Now I can finally write Guile code to update all those environment variables. (Hopefully this lets us do polkit in Guix as well.)