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From: Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com>
To: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Down with PYTHONPATH!
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 15:35:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c4a496dd-7e4d-9173-a498-f8d3e3981a18@crazy-compilers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87muikr3bq.fsf@mdc-berlin.de>

Am 14.06.19 um 10:14 schrieb Ricardo Wurmus:

I welcome your initiative. Fixing this finally is on my todo-list since
long.

> here’s a half-baked idea that I think is worth considering: let’s patch
> our Python package to respect GUIX_PYTHONPATH and use GUIX_PYTHONPATH in
> our wrappers.

I have a *strong* opinion against this, as this would just replace one
cludge by another one. See below for rational.

IMO the only sustainable solution it to patch the interpreter
(Modules/getpath.c) to determine the correct "installation path"
(profile). I did quite some work on this last year, but had no time to
finish it. I still have no time for finishing, but I should be able to
hand-over my results (including prepared patches for Python 3.7).

Rational for GUIX_PYTHONPATH being a cludge (IMHO)

- Constraint: We must keep the expected behavior of PYTHONPATH as
documented for CPython. This esp. means, we must not simply substitute
in the source PYTHON_PATH by GUIX_PYTHONPATH, but need to *add* code.

- When implementing GUIX_PYTHONPATH in site.py or site-cutomize.py, it
will fail if python is run using -S (disable the import of the module
site, and thus site-customize).

- When implementing GUIX_PYTHONPATH in getpath.c, we need to copy the
current code for PYTHONPATH, which means we will end up with a not so
short patch. And even then, this special care needs to be taken to not
leak GUIX_PYTHONPATH from one profile to the other.

- We still need a wrapper (which caused a lot of problems, we already
solve. But maybe other problem will arise).

- If patching getpath.c anyway, we could go for interpreter to determine
the correct "installation path" (see above).

-- 
Regards
Hartmut Goebel

| Hartmut Goebel          | h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com               |
| www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-06-15 13:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-14  8:14 Down with PYTHONPATH! Ricardo Wurmus
2019-06-14 10:12 ` ng0
2019-06-14 21:29 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-06-15  7:44   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-06-15  9:15 ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-06-17  9:03   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-06-17 10:20     ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-06-17 15:48       ` Pjotr Prins
2019-06-18 15:46         ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-06-19 11:25           ` Hartmut Goebel
2019-06-17 12:17     ` Hartmut Goebel
2019-06-15 13:35 ` Hartmut Goebel [this message]
2019-06-15 14:50   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-06-17  9:11   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-06-17 18:34     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-06-18  8:28       ` Hartmut Goebel
2019-07-06 10:45 ` Hartmut Goebel
2019-07-06 16:31   ` Pjotr Prins
2019-07-18  8:20   ` Ricardo Wurmus

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