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I don't think that will work correctly. Case in point: pre-inst-env in the Guix source tree. > Adding autoconf & automake seems a bit much to me (gnu-build-system > is not necessarily autotools-build-system, the exact required version > of autoconf & automake can vary), but otherwise your proposal seems > good to me. We could drop both from the deriving system or simply define a constant %implicit-gnu-inputs-no-autotools (name subject to bikeshedding).