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Resent-From: Dale Mellor Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 14:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 71697 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Maxim Cournoyer , Greg Hogan , 71697@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Josselin Poiret , Simon Tournier , Mathieu Othacehe , Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= , Tobias Geerinckx-Rice , Florian Pelz , Ricardo Wurmus , Christopher Baines , Matthew Trzcinski Received: via spool by 71697-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B71697.171975890724534 (code B ref 71697); Sun, 30 Jun 2024 14:49:01 +0000 Received: (at 71697) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jun 2024 14:48:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58661 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sNvqt-0006Ne-9s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2024 10:48:27 -0400 Received: from [195.15.247.228] (port=37203 helo=rdmp.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sNvqs-0006NP-2T for 71697@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2024 10:48:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=[IPv6:::1]) by rdmp.org with esmtp (Exim 4.96.1) (envelope-from ) id 1sNvqi-0007MV-18; Sun, 30 Jun 2024 14:48:16 +0000 Message-ID: From: Dale Mellor Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 15:48:15 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87zfr48ms8.fsf@gmail.com> References: <1f9e0a732fff5c6460e6da9500ea5b748882e38d.1719069966.git.zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> <871q4ldpgv.fsf@gnu.org> <87h6dfbj1w.fsf@gmail.com> <87zfr48ms8.fsf@gmail.com> Organization: DM Bespoke Computer Solutions Ltd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.48.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 91F8E69C66 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.88 X-Spam-Score: -4.88 X-TUID: CG9aePdn45In On Fri, 2024-06-28 at 23:12 -0400, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: >=20 > While I dislike the attitude/approach used, I think the essence of the > complaint was that Guix, via SHW, was somehow facilitating the > scavenging of free software sources to train large language models > (LLM), with the opinion that these models do not respect the licenses of > the sources ingested for their produced output (the work is considered > new work, not a derived work, or perhaps it's still legally a gray area, > I don't know).=C2=A0 In this perspective, the original poster was seeking= to > have the free software more protected against what they see as a loop > hole in the LLM business, as explained above. Original, original poster here (I'm feeling pretty awkward right now TBH,= like a bad shit-stirrer). The point is that I use GUIX to support my own, priva= te projects. It is nothing to do with licensing, I'm the only one who has eve= r seen the code. In this context it is unacceptable that GUIX should give it= away to anyone. Dale