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Resent-From: Liliana Marie Prikler Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2022 08:37:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 54267 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: jgart Cc: 54267@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 54267-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B54267.16468150053328 (code B ref 54267); Wed, 09 Mar 2022 08:37:01 +0000 Received: (at 54267) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Mar 2022 08:36:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58480 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nRroK-0000rc-VR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2022 03:36:45 -0500 Received: from mailrelay.tugraz.at ([129.27.2.202]:42723) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nRroI-0000rS-GO for 54267@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2022 03:36:43 -0500 Received: from lprikler-laptop.ist.intra (gw.ist.tugraz.at [129.27.202.101]) by mailrelay.tugraz.at (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4KD5CC1TLgz3xC9; Wed, 9 Mar 2022 09:36:39 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tugraz.at; s=mailrelay; t=1646814999; bh=d4BEE1jXSYvrVjLC07gPfiYJ1RjMSqldVoNFO63TYQk=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=MWqMerdqHylUbIbNPRancAnGzcxpZsjnaXUbFJfRf4MM34/lnrdBoRrvlkeSkn7yf hyPD+NQx3LmjlOu/mhGYs+tOpfxREdqw6lpw0xOKQVXSqdncSvQj3MLJFsiCI5VHVA zLngtWrC6HepKwKFj7UCRi2wJe0Kw2jFljtxlgns= Message-ID: From: Liliana Marie Prikler Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2022 09:36:38 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20220307120442.GB7531@gac.attlocal.net> References: <20220306032823.24088-1-jgart@dismail.de> <20220307120442.GB7531@gac.attlocal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.42.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-TUG-Backscatter-control: waObeELIUl4ypBWmcn/8wQ X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.74 on 129.27.10.116 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-patches" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1646815033; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:resent-cc: resent-from:resent-sender:resent-message-id:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=d4BEE1jXSYvrVjLC07gPfiYJ1RjMSqldVoNFO63TYQk=; b=LbmMB4AhOJRHaQqUsPPRiScGYqtpYTOfuttmBznOP0f2e4tGFWMH6nusffkNn3FGvE2rHv t62GSchm15I2C0bwD+knh1oQ0+4uPz6AajKVbsI9wTJSD5scGtwOgPCb61M+Rs6k/ehugT xps96fq1YOBP3xUWX+JuhtkDkk3aSyK43Wimo+dn+854Zv7F0slBSfe8RN3r6NGfq/oZm6 cQbo2RtNmmCmrYJpXP1en5a36w3SigMCTAGwhXk+svPeBl2VQLNuojrV8QIhF6YNiECfLQ 1mAhMT459AUAFiM5c7QXzjNWGAVgWZn/K7TPuB1B2AqRuZXD+BiuY9tlYtJZjQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1646815033; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=urLegYK47yQp59ly1/aaLGNkl2+DHg0vSPy1J3SHJPonpxa3CtmfAJZi3rpeTGLmfQvjJT vQANLF1LMCIjs/PX5ML/OXGRsDbwxiddqb6z7Vd47nQ2DJpcZIOYxNpJ7nEcsA32JqfGm9 g4fmhrAEfzOHUmoglXHU4uM4l6xZLY0H0MsYsWxRB08G34BiBXNLjNykstOYW/gh2D15Zd Gxs/O8xcr6r7xKRDBhjmU917EXRy1W2sTu/1PjCYg1BoqtPkrXB14yJMp7jX0wprjLtqWt JILWW/75J4ziPCnnYLFMvVhww1Rman2Ce4+1Cfes1UtSTlVHer1zqi7WZWI14A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=tugraz.at header.s=mailrelay header.b=MWqMerdq; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=tugraz.at (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 5.39 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=tugraz.at header.s=mailrelay header.b=MWqMerdq; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=tugraz.at (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 883A021F1D X-Spam-Score: 5.39 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: W/2eQOuLQNOa Am Montag, dem 07.03.2022 um 12:04 -0500 schrieb jgart: > 501(c)(3) non-profit organization That is a broad label and no indicator of quality whatsoever. It applies to organizations genuinely interested in the betterment of society, happy faces painted on top of companies taking weird business decisions (looking at you, Mozilla), and right-wing think tanks spewing propaganda while claiming to be an academical institution in name only and accepting huge amounts of cash to speak on behalf of big oil against any regulations that would impact their profits. > On Mon, 07 Mar 2022 13:28:58 +0100 Liliana Marie Prikler > wrote: > > Sounds more like an ad than a recipe to me.  Note that "latest > > stable" means "I enjoy being part of a crypto-mining botnet and > > would like to dedicate more harware towards reaching the 3 degree > > target" when speaking about rolling release distribution models.   > > Then again... "cryptocurrency payments are back"[1]. > > I'd be less suspicious to promote Cyberia [...] than DigitalOcean. > Capsul's approach to providing Guix System is a better approach than > using some cloud infrastructure provider that doesn't care to make > Guix System a first-class citizen. > I think we should promote grassroots organizations like this and be > more suspicious of companies funded by VC money instead > (DigitalOcean, Github, etc...). While in principle I agree that all companies are sketchy always, the cookbook still is not a place for endorsements, but for technical solutions. Your contribution is the former. To be anything but you should at the very least guide users through the process of purging password-less root access. Cheers