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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1680556848; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=JvsPTnlf8YjEgtpXYqlmNcDC1tQC9nOVpBPJ8RSPagY/7iFkzv30PaQnX6afwgr1DaKrnG 2tmZ+1dSHI+aScbeCu8RUhc1Kokd2uNPPZCySz+7nHK+T7hs77Q36wj5ZWu95LhT9nYwbL X3iR6gSQEZzvOd+wYScdYW4M3sWFvcxN3J+150FqE4aGxMXqMi1/KfRvInyw4rNrW8usU4 s0a76SUk+z2HYZL0p0i0iz/vTf3urPwNE3msVh05ugXb5X2/7vcV3gN4txaMoInFpr0Bcm kQcqaSbH0QU1YKElmP3zxhj7cvFqC2kr+iWJgDEmX+yDMHXG93Kwa/EIGiKLFA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1680556848; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=dMtPmVI8jJ/tXUiTjbBQSUeXuAk2du4jWlKC6mhGGFU=; b=arlOWWujJ/QLqERn4Cf+DpOr74KIwMgagdCP0e69f2n+X/JqHrdkHrF26kYY4qiZQfBBF5 jBqk9GHTviCMuZAqB8SDExvu7dkObIe6K3n7pQe0/ijfdoPwCNSUTPBqhV3r5+xo8ANeZc 5/SxQnq3OT3x+QBPmWNkNB3FKO7Kj2pg0noJmRnxPH2ioXNQWFCUc7tPWDp+7fZ1+LSN54 mu+ING4QLqyaScr4FIeR/PRaE9KkjuQ+m37xlDWPnhiD1CK9OmrTlysXr1GgqLtWXcWK1/ eugOm5Aydg9SBsfqDrG1V+Avq0TSTsz0nBsnZEV63zD43PhZpBo2yJdpcKUAbw== Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 3.48 X-Spam-Score: 3.48 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 3B6C119265 X-TUID: nJIfaLdNFjn7 On Mon, 3 Apr 2023, Nicolas Graves via "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution. wrote: > Just to be precise on llama, what I proposed was to include the port of > Facebook code to CPP, (llama.cpp, see ticket 62443 on guix-patches), > which itself has a license. > > The weight themselves indeed do not have a license. You can only > download them through torrents because they were leaked. For this model > in particular, we can't include them in Guix indeed (also because of > their sheer size). > > The other case I evoked and one that is more mature is the case of VOSK > audio recognition, which model binaries have an Apache license (you can > find them here: https://alphacephei.com/vosk/models One more case to consider: rnnoise, which is already packaged in Guix. If the licence filed is to be believed the weights are bsd3. For how they are created, see the `TRAINING-README` file in the source. That procedure produced `rnn_data.{c,h}` files which are present in the outputs of `guix build -S rnnoise`. Best, Jack