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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1616618349; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=V0HC55jEKs2YOwOTPYiPqxjpjRW/yUicxePi/VP8G7U=; b=ZHULWAnzQ8aaA6vsVpkqRmzfMXduacCQAWYXKLzSUvMB4Na4EPhfBE6fAMPAecj8G5SFfL 4MtZYQZ+K28iUX+R6GcP+zAvT2k0qWzD7X7KUJ1S0kx6D29jhnNgc60NzmXOe6J9qMXq9X vgcNLGPwaFtoQUbvYZhHR9jrca9wYk/kcR2HpC0wjSMKDRh7sMUs4RR8Ay6uWHBwXjueT9 WT8wJoZ6IFYidv1LRR3U18vHy0GLrx25fqdre/h77xhTQq0tqG0tAEemu39Hmmpu4f8ftC EvWUiNIFr0E+Hs5LmsKjWyFgWCihTJ/5HaK7TgKKytaI5mlwLnqTwsGLzpImDw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1616618349; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=m5p7pd+F0/hMJMMH9ECMDPUXA+a426FmJ6skkQ7wAtJ7HQo5Vn3b5l66fn9bnOE8SuIJ9C TnSDwtckmdVbsYeexAhCDVuim6iypgs6Qre0wUs1O0nRDLSWVhRQNeOHju1oa7RPjxgrQa 0vvjpHdYZRii7PA1xWiDdhVdY6NV7PxSkk+MEktJ82vlzfN9qxzvGZjM4G+mjfEDRpB+wL 8PDzcUumMbcY0N10ExPAPb/KPwntKIKPxNgdsBUH/Shy1/kcobnEBL0w36oEK+iQUVNs1v t0uRabFwnAbgC/vxFMSmlAArE79kTFoDRk9eR8dTSFqVDlB3v4voSKkT0tZhHw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=zaclys.net header.s=default header.b=safbigau; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=zaclys.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.22 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=zaclys.net header.s=default header.b=safbigau; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=zaclys.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 1D1C622842 X-Spam-Score: -5.22 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: bAhd2oV5od/d --=-GfZIYDZfPxn4QQC7VbHT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2021-03-24 at 21:24 +0100, Vincent Legoll wrote: > Hello, >=20 > On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 8:51 PM Leo Famulari > wrote: > > > We bought a handful of Overdrive 1000 in the past (they are no > > > longer > > > sold), and hosting was always an obstacle. > >=20 > > I volunteer to host one or two workstation-type 64-bit ARM > > machines. >=20 > I already volunteered (privately) to host the same (1 or 2 WS power- > class), > currently on ADSL uplink (so not for substitute distribution, only > building), > FTTH in the future, no UPS though. >=20 I also have space at home, ~3500Mbps down, 600Mbps up, no UPS (yet?). --=-GfZIYDZfPxn4QQC7VbHT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEFIvLi9gL+xax3g6RRaix6GvNEKYFAmBbodAACgkQRaix6GvN EKZrVA/9Gi9nmlZ4WziyDhisRsje+2qYsL7nb0ol7V3RB+TCaI1wv1OSyhQGKqMf uHvb0Zd8VIODt4OGY+l9N67mmt3k5Yl4nDGDHVEKXgZWhsAw6ofIYxShVjT2a3U9 Ag9z7giOA0JLY7TYUgl4H7chIXFxHQWBHsUN3J513nvHg/r3kOFNwwuvU5UWn+Jz 3ug4dNKLY9wJDYtxQaYh7pET4Gnxa0V7VtFnpCSfd4OjWQbNvnD2ZzzkRlq35Uga tvkaowvDUttr09XvmdRAuLrCgF4iZGTDDtVjm/DAmu9fJTVY+aTAuy41b13EVf99 ftgM6FYY42+tCtb3K/Z/MTrfDlv92F+JqYNcMqv2FS4fuEwUwtPrCAysAu2tFBHK gBWYDoNbGGGLGb2Vdy0zzAGEGvZRDGWFr8ZH8FxxfIJiJisoJISjD7YiVrlC4poJ K7BNFuhHdRLzK0ETRroHbacaPbnEgUxk/ORF9LiOk+/2vAGVeSXbQXm7iMmT21M7 Dd8Usc93pMYNzHGCE/816zIxX/ZtyJQsMCqwBkiUWX1RkUzzpWnxMq/6U5fp8rzM nMiH3YNfWlCLAeR1gBtN4SjFe85Fb3VA3KVnSMUSZeHxRH71REc4Df7J94IonNo9 dB/mm8LMnwwbjM7z7+aE4wUh+aonH6QRvkdOjxUZZCyvpVCwEIU= =o3L7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-GfZIYDZfPxn4QQC7VbHT--