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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 1.07 X-Spam-Score: 1.07 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 8AAC25E018 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-TUID: 8O/N2qoGr0VY Am Fri, Nov 01, 2024 at 02:53:56PM +0100 schrieb Ricardo Wurmus: > The GNU Assembly ended up being rather immobilized by Not to mention Covid. And the fact that the hard part would have started when we wanted to not just define our basic manifesto, but move on to concrete governance structures. Notice that this is also where we are currently stuck in Guix... Andreas