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From: Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il>
To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Attila Lendvai <attila@lendvai.name>,
	Felix Lechner <felix.lechner@lease-up.com>
Subject: Re: Why "update substitutes?"
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 12:18:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zx9k58G4RYB_BBmf@3900XT> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <80241358-D007-4744-A311-B94873D6AD8A@tobias.gr>

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On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 05:07:21PM +0000, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice wrote:
> Hi Attila,
> 
> On 25 October 2024 23:42:32 UTC, Attila Lendvai <attila@lendvai.name> wrote:
> >i still don't really know what's happening there, but maybe something like "fetching the registry" or "fetching metadata" would be more descriptive of it?
> 
> Howsabout…  ‘looking for suitable substitutes on <server>’ if we must change the string?
> 
> It describes what's happening, implies why it's happening, and avoids clichéd jargon.  I wouldn't even know what ‘fetching the registry’ means.
> 
> >to me "the substitutes" means the binary artifacts.
> 
> Yes.

I think it comes from the assumption that if a substitute isn't
available then it's dependencies are (all) available. Thus we get stuck
in a recursion of looking further and further to try to find the base of
what is available and will allow us to build the derivation we're
actually looking for.

One option I've been mulling over would be to look for a substitute, and
if that failed to automatically look ALL the way back immediately. I
don't like it because I'm sure it's overkill and would probably add
strain on the substitute servers, but it would decrease the number of
times 'searching for substitutes' is printed.

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-28 10:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-25 20:50 Why "update substitutes?" Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-10-25 23:42 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-10-26 17:07   ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2024-10-28 10:18     ` Efraim Flashner [this message]
2024-11-01 16:53     ` Attila Lendvai
2024-10-26 15:12 ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-10-26 16:54   ` Suhail Singh
2024-10-26 17:08     ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2024-10-26 17:23       ` Suhail Singh
2024-10-26 17:55         ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2024-10-26 16:54 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice

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