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From: Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz>
To: Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@gmail.com>
Cc: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>,
	"Sergio Pastor Pérez" <sergio.pastorperez@outlook.es>,
	guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Should we document how to detect if build machines are reachable before trying to offload?
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2024 19:25:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zp1EmsX6OA9zD2N1@ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEwRq=pdDbiC9Oea9seQuEvb9goJqtAfrtm_wjS4cZWy36b_xg@mail.gmail.com>

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On 2024-07-21 16:26:41 +0000, Vincent Legoll wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 12:57 PM Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
>
> > I guess this is probably what we should permit: building locally when we
> > cannot offload.
> >
> > Does that make sense?
> >
>
> What about making "build locally" not a special case, but just "offloading
> to
> localhost" ?

That will not work without reworking (fixing) the offload mechanism.  (Some?)
flags are currently ignored for offload (--check, --rounds, ...), but you want
to have them working at least locally when you need them.

>
> Maybe as an implicit default, so that it would work naturally as today.
>
> And with some way to deny it for people who don't want to build locally
> at all, whatever their reason might be.
>
> Would that trim some "build locally"-specific code ?
>
> Is that already how it's done ?
>
> Is the idea crazy / dumb ?

No, I like it in general, if nothing else it would put the offload code on
critical path, ensuring it fully works.

I wonder what are the downsides (I am sure there are some).

>
> --
> Vincent Legoll

Tomas

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-21 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-04 15:45 Should we document how to detect if build machines are reachable before trying to offload? Sergio Pastor Pérez
2024-07-11  9:48 ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-07-11 20:23   ` Sergio Pastor Pérez
2024-07-21 12:56     ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-07-21 15:59       ` Sergio Pastor Pérez
2024-07-21 16:26       ` Vincent Legoll
2024-07-21 17:25         ` Tomas Volf [this message]
2024-07-22 14:59       ` Simon Tournier

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