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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: F12906373D X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.90 X-Spam-Score: -2.90 X-TUID: byqnpva7WRvz Hello Enno, thanks for the pointer! Am Mon, Jul 08, 2024 at 07:21:38PM +0200 schrieb Enrico Schwass: > If you are looking for host services > I have good experience with netcup.de. Looking at their virtual "root" servers: https://www.netcup.eu/vserver/ the most interesting price point would be the offer of 12 cores, 32GB of RAM and 1TB of SSD for 32¤/month. The most expensive offer has twice the cores, 4 times the RAM and 4 times the SSD for 108¤/month. In all cases, it would be shared, whereas Hetzner offers dedicated servers at a higher price, which is a decision to make. > They also have ARM machines. There they only offer "vServers" with "vCores"; I do not quite understand what that means. A maximum number of cores, and when there are too many people on a machine, we get fewer? Well, the FAQ says that we would not be root on this type of virtual machine, which does not look like what we want. Andreas