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Message-ID: References: <20b3d868-c823-494e-970c-e34d7709363a@gmail.com> <87zfslr3rf.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87zfslr3rf.fsf@gmail.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a0c:e300::1; envelope-from=andreas@enge.fr; helo=hera.aquilenet.fr X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Spam-Score: -3.36 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 490877F860 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.36 X-TUID: ZKQFC9L/vD/P Am Sun, May 19, 2024 at 10:38:28PM +0300 schrieb André A. Gomes: > Nigko Yerden writes: > > Hello Guix! > > Shouldn't 'guix pull' substitutes also work on foreign distros? > I'd like to re-iterate the question. I have been using the Guix system > for years but lately I'm also using it as a package manager. It is > rather off-putting that guix pull will take more than 20 minutes in this > setting. Newcomers will probably start by using it a package manager > and only then commit to the system. I have no answer, but can confirm the problem and state that it is not related to using Guix as a package manager or as a full system. In both cases "guix pull" should do the same thing. However, I am also surprised by the following behaviour: I have three users on my Guix system, and always do three "guix pull --commit=..." on the same commit for all of them. It happens that the second or third user compiles derivations that I would expect to be in the store already. I do not know what the differences are. Someone suggested to me it could be related to channels. Apparently, using a different set of channels leads to different derivations. But last week it has also happened for my two users with only the main channel. Andreas