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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.99 X-Spam-Score: -2.99 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 93BDC3D76E X-Migadu-Scanner: mx11.migadu.com X-TUID: e8zKYrDb1mSP --45GRqVZuUVUgtKQR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 02, 2024 at 11:00:15AM +0200, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > Hi Richard, >=20 > Richard Sent skribis: >=20 > > As everyone who's built Guix from source knows, when running ./configure > > on a system with an existing Guix installation you must remember to > > specify --localstatedir=3D/var and --sysconfdir=3D/etc. I think we shou= ld > > consider whether those variables should default to those values. >=20 > I think it would make sense. >=20 > Before I advocated that we should preferably stick to the GNU standards > and have users make informed choices (that=E2=80=99s how we ended up with= the > =E2=80=98GUIX_CHECK_LOCALSTATEDIR=E2=80=99 macro that warns users but let= s them > explicitly pass =E2=80=98--localstatedir=E2=80=99.) >=20 > That was 8 years ago though (eight!). At this point I think defaulting > to /var and /etc would do more good than harm. >=20 > What do others think? I think changing the defaults to use /var and /etc by default would be a good change. 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