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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -9.71 X-Spam-Score: -9.71 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D5AB21B9EB X-TUID: 1Wonkj96ym3G --I0qZ8tUGqM2fmJVz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On 2024-03-18 18:48:27 +0100, Vivien Kraus wrote: > The guix users, I claim, would rather have a distribution of guix (and > the packages it provides) with accurate personal information, even if > it means to be annoyed for a moment with a security system. Single data point: As a Guix user (and occasional contributor, albeit not a committer), I would very much prefer a system that does not rewrite the history. When someone wants to correct their name (for whatever reason), I would prefer it to be done going forward, not retroactively. I think making such broad statements without some empirical study is not great, since it is, as you said yourself, just your claim not supported by anything (as far as I can tell). 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