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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.41 X-Spam-Score: -4.41 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9BF1F1A013 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-TUID: ZvnO+cvOXV0I --ZFun0THg8qDq4Mya Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 05:43:40AM +0000, John Kehayias wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > Forgive the top post and please see below/previous messages for > previous updates. >=20 > TL;DR: I plan to merge mesa-updates into master today-ish (well, > tomorrow for me at this point). >=20 > I've been checking in with Efraim who's been very helpful at trying to > nudge along substitute coverage on non-x86_64 platforms. Unfortunately > looks like we have plateaued a bit on, e.g., aarch64. We haven't been > getting stats from QA for this round, and Berlin looks good for what > it covers (x86) but other architectures are down from what we can > tell. >=20 > I don't think there are any fundamental failures at this point but > just lots of "missing derivation" errors (I've restarted so many > manually for x86_64/i686) and builds not completing without restarts. > Or unknown reasons. Given the few weeks I've given this and the risk > of just perpetually doing rebuilds to keep catching up (with then more > updates to push) I think it would be best to merge to master. Mesa and > other bits will continue to move forward as well, so I think it is > time so we can be somewhat timely. >=20 > I'd rather not without complete substitute coverage, but given recent > build farm difficulties, and the tools we do have for users (pinning, > weather checks, etc.) I think it is best to call this branch so we can > move on. Gnome has some updates that will need (re)building as well as > trying to move forward with core-updates now too. >=20 > This is a case where having some better sense of our users and actual > substitute needs/wants would be helpful (yes, Guix survey!) as well as > recognizing our current infrastructure limits. Here's another vote for > prioritizing infrastructure and making sure QA lives and expands. >=20 > Feel free to object to this merge timing, though with the relative > silence in each previous message I take it I can make a call here. >=20 > Thanks everyone and hope 2024 is off to a good start! Enjoy the new > mesa with curl and xwayland security updates (no new grafts!). To record here more or less what I said on IRC, we're currently at rust-1.56 or 1.57 on the mesa-teams branch, and we're looking at probably more than a week to build out to rust itself, and then the packages which depend on it. 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