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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.70 X-Spam-Score: -6.70 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 295892097F X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-TUID: ndTY1cWvBur8 --96MepxxNXH06eSE5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 11:31:41PM -0500, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: >=20 > [...] >=20 > > Yes, we definitely need a rotation here! I for one have my name there > > but regardless of my interest, I have to admit that I=E2=80=99ve been u= nable to > > be sufficiently responsive. It=E2=80=99s time to let new folks take > > responsibility. > > > > I think we should make this a fixed-term position, to make it easier for > > people to commit to actually being active when needed, with the > > understanding that it=E2=80=99s not a commitment for life. > > > >> - currently we are not on the OS security distribution contact list: > >> ; this > >> had been discussed before but we will need commitment from people > >> > >> - clear roles will be helpful; to me this includes at least a couple > >> of people to coordinate (the majority of security issues will be > >> handled through package upgrades/grafts) and people to help review > >> and/or contact needed experts, like for Guix internal issues; we > >> should make this more precise > > > > We could distinguish security issues in packages provided by Guix from > > security issues in Guix itself. > > > > That said, the security team could redirect things to members of the > > =E2=80=9Ccore=E2=80=9D team for security issues in Guix itself; maybe w= e don=E2=80=99t need to > > formally separate the two. > > > >> - likewise, a clear fixed timeframe for who is on this team; keeping > >> people fresh and engaged for what can suddenly be a time sensitive and > >> critical job; I think this will also help spread institutional > >> knowledge for better security practices in general > > > > +1! > > > >> - members need not be experts but should be active in the community as > >> committers (already a round of vetting), familiar with what issues and > >> processes may arise, and willing to learn; perhaps we need a list of > >> experts to consult though the current teams are a good starting point > > > > +1 > > > >> - what are your thoughts? what are the goals and outcomes we as a > >> distro want in security? > >> > >> - finally, I think an internal discussion with maintainers and long > >> time active committers would be helpful to get the improvements > >> started and moving, in addition to this wider discussion here > >> > >> And to get things started, I'm happy to volunteer myself to help > >> coordinate on security, if deemed okay by our current security team, > >> maintainers, and anyone else that's been helping to handle security. A > >> coordinating role with a term of say 6 months to a year? Happy to > >> provide more information and discuss here or privately; in short I'm > >> not a security expert but have time and bandwidth to keep things > >> moving and want to learn. > > > > Thank you for getting the ball moving! > > > > I=E2=80=99m all for having you on board and, to set an example, to leav= e as you > > join. > > > > If maintainers agree (Cc=E2=80=99d), I invite you to add your name and a > > termination date to the security page, remove my name, and subscribe to > > guix-security. We should add a term for other people on the team too. > > > > How does that sound? >=20 > Sounds good to me! 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