* bug#64827: Texlive-biber not installable @ 2023-07-24 9:52 Andreas Enge [not found] ` <handler.64827.B.169019239510118.ack@debbugs.gnu.org> ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Andreas Enge @ 2023-07-24 9:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 64827 Hello, the latest texlive update (cudos!) has left texlive-biber broken, at least in conjunction with the monolithic texlive: $ guix shell texlive texlive-biber The following derivation will be built: /gnu/store/b2dzc8ayda5dp53s5dq40v0f41290b4c-profile.drv building CA certificate bundle... listing Emacs sub-directories... building fonts directory... building directory of Info manuals... building TeX Live font maps... /builder for `/gnu/store/07yvc85w6piyggplfmmb211ljfp4kvqp-texlive-font-maps.drv' failed with exit code 1 build of /gnu/store/07yvc85w6piyggplfmmb211ljfp4kvqp-texlive-font-maps.drv failed View build log at '/var/log/guix/drvs/07/yvc85w6piyggplfmmb211ljfp4kvqp-texlive-font-maps.drv.gz'. cannot build derivation `/gnu/store/b2dzc8ayda5dp53s5dq40v0f41290b4c-profile.drv': 1 dependencies couldn't be built guix shell: error: build of `/gnu/store/b2dzc8ayda5dp53s5dq40v0f41290b4c-profile.drv' failed Here is the end of /var/log/guix/drvs/07/yvc85w6piyggplfmmb211ljfp4kvqp-texlive-font-maps.drv.gz (not reproducing all the warnings at the beginning of the file): Use of uninitialized value $fn in concatenation (.) or string at /gnu/store/rhaj62vg3bfzlvrm9bsmif4z1bzgq84a-texlive-scripts-66594/bin/updmap line 2158. Use of uninitialized value $fn in concatenation (.) or string at /gnu/store/rhaj62vg3bfzlvrm9bsmif4z1bzgq84a-texlive-scripts-66594/bin/updmap line 2159. updmap: open() failed: No such file or directory at /gnu/store/rhaj62vg3bfzlvrm9bsmif4z1bzgq84a-texlive-scripts-66594/bin/updmap line 2159. Use of uninitialized value $fn in concatenation (.) or string at /gnu/store/rhaj62vg3bfzlvrm9bsmif4z1bzgq84a-texlive-scripts-66594/bin/updmap line 2158. Use of uninitialized value $fn in concatenation (.) or string at /gnu/store/rhaj62vg3bfzlvrm9bsmif4z1bzgq84a-texlive-scripts-66594/bin/updmap line 2159. updmap: open() failed: No such file or directory at /gnu/store/rhaj62vg3bfzlvrm9bsmif4z1bzgq84a-texlive-scripts-66594/bin/updmap line 2159. Use of uninitialized value $fn in concatenation (.) or string at /gnu/store/rhaj62vg3bfzlvrm9bsmif4z1bzgq84a-texlive-scripts-66594/bin/updmap line 2158. Use of uninitialized value $fn in concatenation (.) or string at /gnu/store/rhaj62vg3bfzlvrm9bsmif4z1bzgq84a-texlive-scripts-66594/bin/updmap line 2159. updmap: open() failed: No such file or directory at /gnu/store/rhaj62vg3bfzlvrm9bsmif4z1bzgq84a-texlive-scripts-66594/bin/updmap line 2159. updmap [ERROR]: The following map file(s) couldn't be found: updmap [ERROR]: dvips35.map (in builtin) updmap [ERROR]: pdftex35.map (in builtin) updmap [ERROR]: ps2pk35.map (in builtin) updmap [ERROR]: Did you run mktexlsr? You can disable non-existent map entries using the option --syncwithtrees. Backtrace: 2 (primitive-load "/gnu/store/zdmcg1a44zijbcf5a1p4bd030lc?") In ice-9/eval.scm: 619:8 1 (_ #(#(#(#<directory (guile-user) 7ffff77f7c80> #) #) #)) In guix/build/utils.scm: 812:6 0 (invoke "/gnu/store/rhaj62vg3bfzlvrm9bsmif4z1bzgq84a-t?" ?) guix/build/utils.scm:812:6: In procedure invoke: ERROR: 1. &invoke-error: program: "/gnu/store/rhaj62vg3bfzlvrm9bsmif4z1bzgq84a-texlive-scripts-66594/bin/updmap-sys" arguments: ("--cnffile=/gnu/store/m8pgn9zabl8h3pgaqs7hxj8y9z4mvxhs-texlive-font-maps/share/texmf-dist/web2c/updmap.cfg" "--dvipdfmxoutputdir=/gnu/store/m8pgn9zabl8h3pgaqs7hxj8y9z4mvxhs-texlive-font-maps/share/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvipdfmx/updmap" "--dvipsoutputdir=/gnu/store/m8pgn9zabl8h3pgaqs7hxj8y9z4mvxhs-texlive-font-maps/share/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/updmap" "--pdftexoutputdir=/gnu/store/m8pgn9zabl8h3pgaqs7hxj8y9z4mvxhs-texlive-font-maps/share/texmf-dist/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap") exit-status: 1 term-signal: #f stop-signal: #f Andreas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
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* bug#64827: Acknowledgement (Texlive-biber not installable) [not found] ` <handler.64827.B.169019239510118.ack@debbugs.gnu.org> @ 2023-07-24 10:11 ` Andreas Enge 2023-07-24 22:09 ` Ricardo Wurmus 2023-07-26 14:51 ` bug#64827: Acknowledgement (Texlive-biber not installable) Nicolas Goaziou 0 siblings, 2 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Andreas Enge @ 2023-07-24 10:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 64827; +Cc: Ricardo Wurmus, Nicolas Goaziou Well, it looks like all of texlive broke for me. In a profile with texlive, I now get this: $ pdflatex xyz.tex This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592653-2.6-1.40.25 (TeX Live 2023/GNU Guix) (preloaded format=pdflatex) restricted \write18 enabled. kpathsea: Running mktexfmt pdflatex.fmt mktexfmt: mktexfmt is using the following fmtutil.cnf files (in precedence order): mktexfmt: mktexfmt is using the following fmtutil.cnf file for writing changes: mktexfmt: /home/enge/.texlive2023/texmf-config/web2c/fmtutil.cnf mktexfmt [INFO]: writing formats under /home/enge/.texlive2023/texmf-var/web2c mktexfmt [INFO]: Did not find entry for byfmt=pdflatex skipped mktexfmt [INFO]: total formats: 0 mktexfmt [INFO]: exiting with status 0 I can't find the format file `pdflatex.fmt'! Andreas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: Acknowledgement (Texlive-biber not installable) 2023-07-24 10:11 ` bug#64827: Acknowledgement (Texlive-biber not installable) Andreas Enge @ 2023-07-24 22:09 ` Ricardo Wurmus 2023-07-25 8:42 ` bug#64827: Texlive has become slow Andreas Enge 2023-07-26 14:51 ` bug#64827: Acknowledgement (Texlive-biber not installable) Nicolas Goaziou 1 sibling, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Ricardo Wurmus @ 2023-07-24 22:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas Enge; +Cc: 64827, Nicolas Goaziou Hi Andreas, > I can't find the format file `pdflatex.fmt'! This sounds like a sibling of https://issues.guix.gnu.org/64729 -- Ricardo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: Texlive has become slow 2023-07-24 22:09 ` Ricardo Wurmus @ 2023-07-25 8:42 ` Andreas Enge 2023-07-26 15:25 ` Nicolas Goaziou 0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Andreas Enge @ 2023-07-25 8:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ricardo Wurmus, 64827; +Cc: Nicolas Goaziou Hello, Am Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 12:09:06AM +0200 schrieb Ricardo Wurmus: > > I can't find the format file `pdflatex.fmt'! > This sounds like a sibling of https://issues.guix.gnu.org/64729 it looks similar indeed. But notice that I use the monolithic package "texlive". And I just tried it again and - it just works! In the meantime, I have rebooted. And while I thought I had done it, I must have forgotten to include $GUIX_PROFILE/etc/profile for updating environment variables. However, it has become extremely slow. When compiling a 42 page document: real 0m22,757s user 0m7,243s sys 0m15,370s Before it even outputs the first page of the document, I get pages and pages of screen output looking like lisp code: (/home/enge/.guix-profile/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/amsmath/amstext.sty (/home/enge/.guix-profile/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/amsmath/amsgen.sty)) (/home/enge/.guix-profile/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/amsmath/amsbsy.sty) (/home/enge/.guix-profile/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/amsmath/amsopn.sty)) ... This is compared to before: real 0m1,426s user 0m1,191s sys 0m0,113s Where the lisp style lines look like this: (/gnu/store/m2hpk7ycdqj6n1nbjnd3d4l088m79smx-texlive-texmf-20210325/share/texmf -dist/tex/latex/amsmath/amstext.sty (/gnu/store/m2hpk7ycdqj6n1nbjnd3d4l088m79smx-texlive-texmf-20210325/share/texmf -dist/tex/latex/amsmath/amsgen.sty)) The difference is that before, /home/enge/.guix-profile/share/texmf-dist was directly a symbolic link into the store. Now it is a directory, and each file in it is its own symbolic link to a file in the store, and resolving them apparently takes a lot of time. I am confused as to why this happens. /home/enge/.guix-profile/share/texmf-dist contains 28 symbolic links, 26 of which point to directories and 2 to files (ls-R and README) in /gnu/store/88apcyl30irw6v03gmyav638wq31k9xq-texlive-20230313/share/texmf-dist/ Then there is the "physical" directory web2c. It contains 47 separate symbolic links to files and directories in /gnu/store/88apcyl30irw6v03gmyav638wq31k9xq-texlive-20230313/share/texmf-dist/web2c. I do not understand why not the complete texmf-dist is a symbolic link as before, as the content seems to be the same, which should be handled during the profile creation. Maybe because of this in the definition of the texlive package: ;; Build the union of texlive-bin-full and texlive-texmf, but take the ;; conflicting subdirectory share/texmf-dist from texlive-texmf. What is the role of texlive-bin-full? Why does it contain share/texmf-dist? The basic architecture was to separate the binaries in texlive-bin (which needed compilation) from the tex files in texlive-texmf (which mainly needed copying, plus the black tex magic of format and font map creation), and their union was texlive. My impression is that commit 19fd1004138b60c4479d7516aa0cee261c0b6b57 Author: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Date: Mon Jun 26 12:00:51 2023 +0200 gnu: Externalize libkpathsea in texlive and texlive-bin. poses problems. Which problem is it supposed to solve? What is the idea of the new architecture? Having texlive-libkpathsea, texlive-bin and texlive-bin-full, all the three with very long package definitions, looks very complex to me. Would it be possible and make sense to revert this commit? I considered opening a new bug, since this one looked distinct from not being able to install texlive-biber; but I wonder if texlive-biber is not simply a symptom of the same problem. The error message is updmap: open() failed: No such file or directory at /gnu/store/rhaj62vg3bfzlvrm9bsmif4z1bzgq84a-texlive-scripts-66594/bin/updmap line 2159. updmap [ERROR]: The following map file(s) couldn't be found: updmap [ERROR]: dvips35.map (in builtin) updmap [ERROR]: pdftex35.map (in builtin) updmap [ERROR]: ps2pk35.map (in builtin) updmap [ERROR]: Did you run mktexlsr? Notice the location of the updmap script. The one in my profile points to /gnu/store/88apcyl30irw6v03gmyav638wq31k9xq-texlive-20230313/bin/updmap of the texlive package and the missing .map files are there at /gnu/store/88apcyl30irw6v03gmyav638wq31k9xq-texlive-20230313/share/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/tetex/dvips35.mapand so on. So my impression is that the new way of packaging breaks the monolithic texlive package, and that the texlive-biber package by using the texlive-build-system has become incompatible with the monolithic texlive. This comes from commit commit 3aeca58073eff8b7a835f6492e735dd152d9dc99 Author: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Date: Mon Jun 19 14:43:56 2023 +0200 gnu: biber -> texlive-biber. which moves from perl-build-system to texlive-build-system. Andreas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: Texlive has become slow 2023-07-25 8:42 ` bug#64827: Texlive has become slow Andreas Enge @ 2023-07-26 15:25 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2023-07-26 16:33 ` bug#64827: Texlive-biber not installable Andreas Enge 0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2023-07-26 15:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas Enge; +Cc: Ricardo Wurmus, 64827 Hello, Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> writes: > However, it has become extremely slow. When compiling a 42 page document: > real 0m22,757s > user 0m7,243s > sys 0m15,370s > Before it even outputs the first page of the document, I get pages and > pages of screen output looking like lisp code: > (/home/enge/.guix-profile/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/amsmath/amstext.sty (/home/enge/.guix-profile/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/amsmath/amsgen.sty)) (/home/enge/.guix-profile/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/amsmath/amsbsy.sty) (/home/enge/.guix-profile/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/amsmath/amsopn.sty)) ... > > This is compared to before: > real 0m1,426s > user 0m1,191s > sys 0m0,113s > Where the lisp style lines look like this: > (/gnu/store/m2hpk7ycdqj6n1nbjnd3d4l088m79smx-texlive-texmf-20210325/share/texmf > -dist/tex/latex/amsmath/amstext.sty > (/gnu/store/m2hpk7ycdqj6n1nbjnd3d4l088m79smx-texlive-texmf-20210325/share/texmf > -dist/tex/latex/amsmath/amsgen.sty)) > > The difference is that before, /home/enge/.guix-profile/share/texmf-dist > was directly a symbolic link into the store. Now it is a directory, and > each file in it is its own symbolic link to a file in the store, and > resolving them apparently takes a lot of time. Interesting! > I am confused as to why this happens. > /home/enge/.guix-profile/share/texmf-dist contains 28 symbolic links, > 26 of which point to directories and 2 to files (ls-R and README) in > /gnu/store/88apcyl30irw6v03gmyav638wq31k9xq-texlive-20230313/share/texmf-dist/ > Then there is the "physical" directory web2c. It contains 47 separate > symbolic links to files and directories in > /gnu/store/88apcyl30irw6v03gmyav638wq31k9xq-texlive-20230313/share/texmf-dist/web2c. > > I do not understand why not the complete texmf-dist is a symbolic link > as before, as the content seems to be the same, which should be handled > during the profile creation. Monolithic TeX Live is (and always was) unrelated to profiles. > Maybe because of this in the definition of the texlive package: > ;; Build the union of texlive-bin-full and texlive-texmf, but take the > ;; conflicting subdirectory share/texmf-dist from texlive-texmf. This was exactly the same before "texlive-team-next" merge. I just renamed `texlive-bin' as `texlive-bin-full'. > What is the role of texlive-bin-full? `texlive-bin-full' should be equivalent to `texlive-bin' before the merge. It contains all binaries, and all scripts. > Why does it contain share/texmf-dist? I think scripts in "bin/" are symlinks to real scripts in "share/texmf-dist". > The basic architecture was to separate the binaries in texlive-bin (which > needed compilation) from the tex files in texlive-texmf (which mainly needed > copying, plus the black tex magic of format and font map creation), and > their union was texlive. This should still be the same. The main difference is that `texlive-bin' was renamed `texlive-bin-full'. Any other change was probably not intended. > My impression is that > commit 19fd1004138b60c4479d7516aa0cee261c0b6b57 > Author: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> > Date: Mon Jun 26 12:00:51 2023 +0200 > gnu: Externalize libkpathsea in texlive and texlive-bin. > poses problems. Which problem is it supposed to solve? > > What is the idea of the new architecture? Having texlive-libkpathsea, > texlive-bin and texlive-bin-full, all the three with very long package > definitions, looks very complex to me. It is not. Maybe the comment at the beginning of "tex.scm" would help you understand it better. In a nutshell `texlive-bin' is for modular TeX Live, whereas `texlive-bin-full' is for monolithic TeX Live. Both rely on `texlive-libkpathsea', which can also be used to build other executables (such as xindy) and remove them from `texlive-bin'. > Would it be possible and make sense to revert this commit? I don't think so, per above. This commit, which may be imperfect, is essential to the modularization of the TeX Live system. > I considered opening a new bug, since this one looked distinct from > not being able to install texlive-biber; but I wonder if texlive-biber > is not simply a symptom of the same problem. I don't think the issue is related to `texlive-biber'. > The error message is > updmap: open() failed: No such file or directory at /gnu/store/rhaj62vg3bfzlvrm9bsmif4z1bzgq84a-texlive-scripts-66594/bin/updmap line 2159. > updmap [ERROR]: The following map file(s) couldn't be found: > updmap [ERROR]: dvips35.map (in builtin) > updmap [ERROR]: pdftex35.map (in builtin) > updmap [ERROR]: ps2pk35.map (in builtin) > updmap [ERROR]: Did you run mktexlsr? > > Notice the location of the updmap script. The one in my profile points to > /gnu/store/88apcyl30irw6v03gmyav638wq31k9xq-texlive-20230313/bin/updmap > of the texlive package and the missing .map files are there at > /gnu/store/88apcyl30irw6v03gmyav638wq31k9xq-texlive-20230313/share/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/tetex/dvips35.mapand so on. Profile hook `texlive-font-maps' is triggered by modular TeX Live, i.e., any "texlive-" prefixed package in the profile. If you don't install any, it should not be run. When it is run, however, it uses tools from modular TeX Live, not from monolithic TeX Live. I think the issue here may be that you are conflating the two TeX Live systems currently provided by Guix, i.e., you both install `texlive' and some "texlive-" package. > So my impression is that the new way of packaging breaks the monolithic > texlive package, and that the texlive-biber package by using the > texlive-build-system has become incompatible with the monolithic texlive. > This comes from commit > commit 3aeca58073eff8b7a835f6492e735dd152d9dc99 > Author: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> > Date: Mon Jun 19 14:43:56 2023 +0200 > gnu: biber -> texlive-biber. > which moves from perl-build-system to texlive-build-system. Coming from modular TeX Live, `texlive-biber' is certainly incompatible with monolithic TeX Live, which, being monolithic, is expected to include "biber" executable anyway. Basically, if you install `texlive' package, you probably shouldn't install any "texlive-" prefixed package. If, for some reason, you do, you should ensure "texlive-" prefixed packages form a coherent system, i.e., they are expected to provide some collection or scheme. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: Texlive-biber not installable 2023-07-26 15:25 ` Nicolas Goaziou @ 2023-07-26 16:33 ` Andreas Enge 2023-07-26 18:17 ` Andreas Enge 0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Andreas Enge @ 2023-07-26 16:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: Ricardo Wurmus, 64827 Hello! Am Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 05:25:59PM +0200 schrieb Nicolas Goaziou: > This should still be the same. The main difference is that `texlive-bin' > was renamed `texlive-bin-full'. Any other change was probably not intended. Okay, I understand. It looks like there was another change, but I do not see what it was... > I think the issue here may be that you are conflating the two TeX Live > systems currently provided by Guix, i.e., you both install `texlive' and > some "texlive-" package. Okay. In my profile, I only have texlive and biber. Since biber is deprecated by texlive-biber, updating the profile leads to texlive and texlive-biber being there, which causes this conflict. I think the solution will simply be to reinstate the previous biber package to go with the monolithic texlive and keep it next to texlive-biber. > Coming from modular TeX Live, `texlive-biber' is certainly incompatible > with monolithic TeX Live, which, being monolithic, is expected to > include "biber" executable anyway. No, biber was not part of the monolithic texlive. Probably because it is an additional binary which is not part of texlive-bin. Or maybe it was not part of the texlive distribution in the past? We used to download it separately from CPAN. Re-adding the biber package will be an easy fix, I think; indeed maybe it should be added by default to the monolithic texlive, assuming that its source code is part of the texlive distribution. Apart from that, I have no strong opinion either way. > Monolithic TeX Live is (and always was) unrelated to profiles. Well, these symlinks to files or directories in the store are created when the profile is put together. And for efficiency, the links are to the highest level directory that is not merged from two different packages. So what is linked depends on what is in the profile, and for instance splitting a package in two can lead to files being linked rather than directories. But this does not seem to be the case here, I do not quite understand yet what is happening. > You seem to have some clues about the slowness; you reported there are > too many symlinks in monolithic TeX Live. This is not intended and > should be fixed. Clues, yes, but not a full understanding yet. Thanks for the explanations, Andreas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: Texlive-biber not installable 2023-07-26 16:33 ` bug#64827: Texlive-biber not installable Andreas Enge @ 2023-07-26 18:17 ` Andreas Enge 2023-07-26 19:51 ` bug#64827: texlive is broken Andreas Enge 0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Andreas Enge @ 2023-07-26 18:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: Ricardo Wurmus, 64827 Am Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 06:33:51PM +0200 schrieb Andreas Enge: > > You seem to have some clues about the slowness; you reported there are > > too many symlinks in monolithic TeX Live. This is not intended and > > should be fixed. > Clues, yes, but not a full understanding yet. To clear things up, I have removed biber from my profile. So now there is only texlive@2021, which contains this in .guix-profile/share/ related to tex: $ ll .guix-profile/share/ | grep texlive lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 77 1. Jan 1970 texmf-dist -> /gnu/store/31rs3m4fzdbal1v81qg1mvl29p39cyrp-texlive-20210325/share/texmf-dist lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 76 1. Jan 1970 texmf-var -> /gnu/store/31rs3m4fzdbal1v81qg1mvl29p39cyrp-texlive-20210325/share/texmf-var lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 72 1. Jan 1970 tlpkg -> /gnu/store/31rs3m4fzdbal1v81qg1mvl29p39cyrp-texlive-20210325/share/tlpkg If I update to texlive@2023: dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 1. Jan 1970 texmf-dist/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 72 1. Jan 1970 tlpkg -> /gnu/store/88apcyl30irw6v03gmyav638wq31k9xq-texlive-20230313/share/tlpkg And as mentioned before, texmf-dist contains symlinks of the kind tex -> /gnu/store/88apcyl30irw6v03gmyav638wq31k9xq-texlive-20230313/share/texmf-dist/tex as well as a "physical" subdirectory web2c with symlinks such as xetex -> /gnu/store/88apcyl30irw6v03gmyav638wq31k9xq-texlive-20230313/share/texmf-dist/web2c/xetex Whereas strangely, the texlive package itself has only this: texmf-dist -> /gnu/store/s6w8r5q3aql1bhasv0nmwr5xgjv6qnhh-texlive-texmf-20230313/share/texmf-dist Weird, where does the split come from? Note that we also lost texmf-var compared to the previous release. Actually things that used to be in texmf-var - the format file texmf-var/web2c/xetex/xetex-fmt, for instance, can now be found in texmf-dist. This is another clue, since the split of the links happens along web2c (but I still do not understand why). From https://www.tug.org/texlive/doc/texlive-en/texlive-en.html section 2.3 I surmise that we need the texmf-var directory back; this is where the formats are supposed to reside. It probably disappeared in commit 19fd1004138b60c4479d7516aa0cee261c0b6b57: ... (texlive-texmf)[build-system]: Use COPY-BUILD-SYSTEM. [arguments]: Set #:INSTALL-PLAN accordingly. Replace TEXLIVE-BIN with TEXLIVE-BIN-FULL. ... + #:install-plan #~'(("texmf-dist/" "share/texmf-dist")) ... + (web2c (string-append texmf-dist "/web2c")) ... - (invoke "fmtutil-sys" "--all"))))))) + (invoke (string-append texlive-bin "/bin/fmtutil-sys") + "--cnffile" fmtutil.cnf + "--all" + "--fmtdir" web2c))))))) I suspect these to be the main difference between the old and the new texlive-texmf. There is also a somewhat suspicious + (setenv "GUIX_TEXMF" texmf-dist) and - (setenv "TEXMFCNF" texmfroot) of which I do not know what the results are. And a lacking - (invoke "mktexlsr") which is probably not very important. Oh wait... Before: $ ll $HOME/.guix-profile/share/texmf-dist/ls-R -r--r--r-- 5 root root 4812162 1. Jan 1970 /home/andreas/.guix-profile/share/texmf-dist/ls-R After: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 82 1. Jan 1970 /home/andreas/.guix-profile/share/texmf-dist/ls-R -> /gnu/store/88apcyl30irw6v03gmyav638wq31k9xq-texlive-20230313/share/texmf-dist/ls-R Notice the difference in size. The latter gives only the names of the subdirectories, the former all files. I think the slowness comes from the fact that now with the monolithic texlive every file needs to be searched for, instead of being just picked up from the list in ls-R. So I would suggest to revert dropping texmf-var by adding it to the #:install-plan and not putting '"--fmtdir" web2c', and to re-add running mktexlsr. Now the question is, will this mktexlsr run disturb the modular texlive? I suppose not. In the worst case, we would need separate texlive-texmf for the two texlive versions. Andreas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: texlive is broken 2023-07-26 18:17 ` Andreas Enge @ 2023-07-26 19:51 ` Andreas Enge 2023-07-26 21:21 ` Andreas Enge 0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Andreas Enge @ 2023-07-26 19:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: Ricardo Wurmus, 64827 Am Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 08:17:02PM +0200 schrieb Andreas Enge: > Oh wait... > Before: > $ ll $HOME/.guix-profile/share/texmf-dist/ls-R > -r--r--r-- 5 root root 4812162 1. Jan 1970 /home/andreas/.guix-profile/share/texmf-dist/ls-R > After: > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 82 1. Jan 1970 /home/andreas/.guix-profile/share/texmf-dist/ls-R -> /gnu/store/88apcyl30irw6v03gmyav638wq31k9xq-texlive-20230313/share/texmf-dist/ls-R > > Notice the difference in size. The latter gives only the names of the > subdirectories, the former all files. No, I was wrong here. 82 is the size of the symlink, the file itself does contain all the file names. But there is also this now as part of the texlive package: + (propagated-inputs (list texlive-libkpathsea)) texlive-libkpathsea contains /gnu/store/h8vmxcbvk8n25y6zjj17qsq0fncansxs-texlive-libkpathsea-20230313/share/texmf-dist/web2c/texmf.cnf texlive (as a symlink to texlive-texmf) contains /gnu/store/88apcyl30irw6v03gmyav638wq31k9xq-texlive-20230313/share/texmf-dist/web2c/texmf.cnf They are not the same: $ diff /gnu/store/h8vmxcbvk8n25y6zjj17qsq0fncansxs-texlive-libkpathsea-20230313/share/texmf-dist/web2c/texmf.cnf /gnu/store/88apcyl30irw6v03gmyav638wq31k9xq-texlive-20230313/share/texmf-dist/web2c/texmf.cnf 62c62 < TEXMFROOT = {$GUIX_TEXMF}/.. --- > TEXMFROOT = $SELFAUTOPARENT 111c111 < TEXMF = {$GUIX_TEXMF} --- > TEXMF = {$TEXMFAUXTREES$TEXMFCONFIG,$TEXMFVAR,$TEXMFHOME,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFSYSCONFIG,!!$TEXMFSYSVAR,!!$TEXMFDIST} 575c575 < /gnu/store/h8vmxcbvk8n25y6zjj17qsq0fncansxs-texlive-libkpathsea-20230313/share/texmf-dist/web2c,\ --- > $SELFAUTOLOC/share/texmf-dist/web2c,\ 872,874c872,874 < error_line = 254 < half_error_line = 238 < max_print_line = 1000 --- > error_line = 79 > half_error_line = 50 > max_print_line = 79 I think with the propagation of texlive-libkpathsea, there is a conflict in the profile, which appears to be resolved in favour of texlive; however, this probably explains why texmf-dist in the profile is no more just a symlink. In principle it could contain files from two distinct packages, those just happen to be in conflict. By the way, the following also fails: $ guix shell --container --pure -D texlive The following derivation will be built: /gnu/store/rdrqavbga5rg9l20vpr1ac79psdndj4d-profile.drv building TeX Live font maps... /builder for `/gnu/store/bnyjd9vgyqniarynlvcia5vnm36pik9i-texlive-font-maps.drv' failed with exit code 1 build of /gnu/store/bnyjd9vgyqniarynlvcia5vnm36pik9i-texlive-font-maps.drv failed View build log at '/var/log/guix/drvs/bn/yjd9vgyqniarynlvcia5vnm36pik9i-texlive-font-maps.drv.gz'. cannot build derivation `/gnu/store/rdrqavbga5rg9l20vpr1ac79psdndj4d-profile.drv': 1 dependencies couldn't be built guix shell: error: build of `/gnu/store/rdrqavbga5rg9l20vpr1ac79psdndj4d-profile.drv' failed The log file contains lots of messages of the form: warning: collision encountered: /gnu/store/yzsq1dykjv96h88pcja0hcjbagn2vjxv-texlive-bin-full-20230313/share/texmf-dist/scripts/l3build/l3build.lua /gnu/store/s6w8r5q3aql1bhasv0nmwr5xgjv6qnhh-texlive-texmf-20230313/share/texmf-dist/scripts/l3build/l3build.lua warning: choosing /gnu/store/yzsq1dykjv96h88pcja0hcjbagn2vjxv-texlive-bin-full-20230313/share/texmf-dist/scripts/l3build/l3build.lua So here the conflicts are made directly visible. With the propagation of texlive-libkpathsea, texlive is clearly not just the composition of (the former) texlive-bin and texlive-texmf any more, where nothing was propagated as far as I can remember. Also, ls-R is now created as part of texlive instead of texlive-texmf, which may make a difference. And texmf-var has disappeared, and I have not yet understood where it has gone. These are a lot of subtle changes, and they do break the monolithic texlive. What could be a way forward to restore the texlive package? Would it be feasible to revert these commits, or is everything too mixed now? If the merge cannot be reverted, how about creating the two packages (texlive-bin and texlive-texmf) required for the monolithic texlive completely separately as before and reinstating texlive to be built from scratch without links with the modular texlive? Andreas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: texlive is broken 2023-07-26 19:51 ` bug#64827: texlive is broken Andreas Enge @ 2023-07-26 21:21 ` Andreas Enge 2023-07-26 22:43 ` Andreas Enge 0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Andreas Enge @ 2023-07-26 21:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: Ricardo Wurmus, 64827 Hello again, Am Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 09:51:49PM +0200 schrieb Andreas Enge: > Would it be feasible to revert these commits, or is everything too > mixed now? I confirm that going back to commit 0561616a3208aa17fe5b1f9c425c44fe00218b08 , which is one before 19fd1004138b60c4479d7516aa0cee261c0b6b57 results in a working monolithic texlive, with texmf-dist in the user profile being a symlink to the corresponding directory of texlive, itself a symlink to the corresponding directory of texlive-texmf; and similarly for texmf-var. However, ./pre-inst-env guix shell --container --pure -D texlive still does not work any more. It prints building TeX Live font maps... (which looks like something a monolithic texlive should not do), and it shows conflicts such as between /gnu/store/y72v93b7f12nx8xq0ljwlzj9yn5b07vk-texlive-bin-20230313/share/texmf-dist/scripts/chktex/deweb.pl /gnu/store/l8g23z46mpzzbq7isnjk65vcx47i2cgf-texlive-texmf-20230313/share/texmf-dist/scripts/chktex/deweb.pl I will go back in time (without exactly bisecting, just by gut feeling) to find a commit where this command works. Andreas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: texlive is broken 2023-07-26 21:21 ` Andreas Enge @ 2023-07-26 22:43 ` Andreas Enge 2023-07-27 9:55 ` Nicolas Goaziou 0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Andreas Enge @ 2023-07-26 22:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: Ricardo Wurmus, 64827 Am Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 11:21:23PM +0200 schrieb Andreas Enge: > still does not work any more. It prints > building TeX Live font maps... > (which looks like something a monolithic texlive should not do), > and it shows conflicts such as between > /gnu/store/y72v93b7f12nx8xq0ljwlzj9yn5b07vk-texlive-bin-20230313/share/texmf-dist/scripts/chktex/deweb.pl > /gnu/store/l8g23z46mpzzbq7isnjk65vcx47i2cgf-texlive-texmf-20230313/share/texmf-dist/scripts/chktex/deweb.pl Actually the roots of this go back a very long time! commit dfdc002c9bf86270941823a96abded0aa5d44088 Author: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> Date: Mon Jul 15 19:07:40 2019 +0200 gnu: texlive-bin: Include scripts. * gnu/packages/tex.scm (texlive-bin)[inputs]: Add texlive-scripts. [arguments]: Let fmtutil.pl reference scripts directory. This commit includes into texlive-bin files not taken from the tarball, but downloaded via subversion. This is only needed for the modular texlive, I suppose, since in the monolithic one these files will be taken from texlive-texmf. However, this has been working nevertheless for a long time. Then there is commit 04a0b1e09abce99857e7930336421ca6d15ae630 (HEAD) Author: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> Date: Mon Jan 11 11:08:15 2021 -0500 gnu: texlive-bin: Enable the use of multiple TeX Live trees. Attempting to compose multiple TeX Live trees (such as can happen when using a texlive-union generated package) proved problematic; only the texmf.cnf configuration file from the union would be honored, causing other TeX Live components to be ignored. This change does away with TeX Live unions, instead relying on the default texmf.cnf configuration file provided by the texlive-bin package to honor individual TeX Live trees referred to via the newly introduced GUIX_TEXMF variable, and replacing the texlive-union procedure by texlive-updmap.cfg, to explicit that generating the fonts map configuration is now its sole purpose. This introduces the GUIX_TEXMF environment variable, and the commit is clearly only useful for the modular texlive. Going back to commit 9fadbf759c7ae0c4555bf43883f3f0a0d8a4e6a6 is not enough to get "guix shell -D texlive". Going back to commit ad457d01147b8d6fcb4ee64b2dc2d699caa1d1ee of July 17 (this one happens to be a day I did a "guix pull") works for "guix shell". I do not quite understand why - here also both packages have collisions in the script files as above. Given how much the current texlive-bin and texlive-kpathsea and thus probably the derived texlive-bin-full cater to the needs of modular texlive, I wonder whether for a monolithic package it would not be easier to start from scratch on a clean slate, using modern source and an old package recipe. Now the question is whether we still want a monolithic package in the distribution. Historically it is there because it was the easiest to package. But I must say that while I find it a bit painful to install (all these gigabytes of data to copy!), I have also come to find it tremendously useful. All of texlive with me all the time! So I am quite certain I would want to maintain it. Andreas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: texlive is broken 2023-07-26 22:43 ` Andreas Enge @ 2023-07-27 9:55 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2023-07-27 10:59 ` Andreas Enge 0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2023-07-27 9:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas Enge; +Cc: Ricardo Wurmus, 64827 Hello, I'm sorry as I have limited time and bandwidth right now to help you solve this issue. It doesn't seem too bad, tho. Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> writes: > Actually the roots of this go back a very long time! > > commit dfdc002c9bf86270941823a96abded0aa5d44088 > Author: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> > Date: Mon Jul 15 19:07:40 2019 +0200 > gnu: texlive-bin: Include scripts. > * gnu/packages/tex.scm (texlive-bin)[inputs]: Add texlive-scripts. > [arguments]: Let fmtutil.pl reference scripts directory. > > This commit includes into texlive-bin files not taken from the tarball, > but downloaded via subversion. This is only needed for the modular texlive, > I suppose, since in the monolithic one these files will be taken from > texlive-texmf. However, this has been working nevertheless for a long time. > > Then there is > commit 04a0b1e09abce99857e7930336421ca6d15ae630 (HEAD) > Author: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> > Date: Mon Jan 11 11:08:15 2021 -0500 > gnu: texlive-bin: Enable the use of multiple TeX Live trees. > Attempting to compose multiple TeX Live trees (such as can happen when using a > texlive-union generated package) proved problematic; only the texmf.cnf > configuration file from the union would be honored, causing other TeX Live > components to be ignored. > This change does away with TeX Live unions, instead relying on the default > texmf.cnf configuration file provided by the texlive-bin package to honor > individual TeX Live trees referred to via the newly introduced GUIX_TEXMF > variable, and replacing the texlive-union procedure by texlive-updmap.cfg, to > explicit that generating the fonts map configuration is now its sole purpose. > > This introduces the GUIX_TEXMF environment variable, and the commit is > clearly only useful for the modular texlive. > > > Going back to commit 9fadbf759c7ae0c4555bf43883f3f0a0d8a4e6a6 is not > enough to get "guix shell -D texlive". I think this may be fixed by tweaking `texlive-font-maps' function in "profiles.scm". This function should only be used for modular TeX Live, and the criteria used for it is very gross: it checks the presence of a "texlive-" prefixed package among the entries. Unfortunately, when using "guix shell -D texlive", `texlive-libkpathsea' is among the entries, and `texlive-font-maps' is activated. > Going back to commit ad457d01147b8d6fcb4ee64b2dc2d699caa1d1ee of July 17 > (this one happens to be a day I did a "guix pull") works for "guix shell". > I do not quite understand why - here also both packages have collisions > in the script files as above. Collisions are harmless. It is possible to avoid them, but a bit tedious. > Given how much the current texlive-bin and texlive-kpathsea and thus > probably the derived texlive-bin-full cater to the needs of modular > texlive, I wonder whether for a monolithic package it would not be easier > to start from scratch on a clean slate, using modern source and an > old package recipe. I don't think you can do away with the dichotomy between `texlive-bin-full' (previously texlive-bin) and `texlive-texmf'. The former is used to build the executables and the latter contains everything else. I don't think there exists a way to merge these two steps into one. > Now the question is whether we still want a monolithic package in the > distribution. Historically it is there because it was the easiest to > package. But I must say that while I find it a bit painful to install > (all these gigabytes of data to copy!), I have also come to find it > tremendously useful. All of texlive with me all the time! So I am quite > certain I would want to maintain it. Note that modular `texlive-scheme-full' (not yet packaged!) would be equivalent to monolithic `texlive'. At some point, we may be able to drop `texlive' (and `texlive-bin-full'). Even if we do not hit 100% coverage (who really needs that?), it is still possible to install a complete TeX Live system using the genuine TeX Live installer. Meanwhile, fixing `texlive' should not be too hard, and monolithic and modular TeX Live are still pretty much independent from each other. n In particular, `texlive-libkpathsea' is not indispensable for `texlive-bin-full'; it was introduced, along with inheritance from `texlive-bin', to reduce code duplication. IOW, it should possible to partly revert 19fd1004138b60c4479d7516aa0cee261c0b6b57 — i.e., make `texlive-bin-full' a copy of previous `texlive-bin', barring the update, and some related fixes such as disabling parallel tests — should fix monolithic's issue. Would you have some time to try it? Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: texlive is broken 2023-07-27 9:55 ` Nicolas Goaziou @ 2023-07-27 10:59 ` Andreas Enge 2023-08-07 11:53 ` Andreas Enge 2023-08-07 16:16 ` Andreas Enge 0 siblings, 2 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Andreas Enge @ 2023-07-27 10:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: Ricardo Wurmus, 64827 Hello, Am Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 11:55:01AM +0200 schrieb Nicolas Goaziou: > I'm sorry as I have limited time and bandwidth right now to help you > solve this issue. It doesn't seem too bad, tho. no problem, this is also my last day before vacations. > I think this may be fixed by tweaking `texlive-font-maps' function in > "profiles.scm". This function should only be used for modular TeX Live, > and the criteria used for it is very gross: it checks the presence of > a "texlive-" prefixed package among the entries. > Unfortunately, when using "guix shell -D texlive", `texlive-libkpathsea' > is among the entries, and `texlive-font-maps' is activated. Well, I also just saw this and solved it by calling the packages "texlivebin" and "texlivetexmf" without a dash... Primitive, but working. > I don't think you can do away with the dichotomy between > `texlive-bin-full' (previously texlive-bin) and `texlive-texmf'. The > former is used to build the executables and the latter contains > everything else. I don't think there exists a way to merge these two > steps into one. No, I agree. But I think the current texlive-bin-full inherits lots of things needed only for the modular system. Thus my suggestion to start it from scratch again without inheritance. > Meanwhile, fixing `texlive' should not be too hard, and monolithic and > modular TeX Live are still pretty much independent from each other. > In particular, `texlive-libkpathsea' is not indispensable for > `texlive-bin-full'; it was introduced, along with inheritance from > `texlive-bin', to reduce code duplication. IOW, it should possible to > partly revert 19fd1004138b60c4479d7516aa0cee261c0b6b57 — i.e., make > `texlive-bin-full' a copy of previous `texlive-bin', barring the update, > and some related fixes such as disabling parallel tests — should fix > monolithic's issue. > Would you have some time to try it? Yes, I am on it! The first commit is in the branch wip-texlive-mono It drops everything monolithic from tex.scm, un-deprecates biber there, and essentially reinstates commit ad457d01147b8d6fcb4ee64b2dc2d699caa1d1ee in a new file texlive.scm, including the biber package. In particular, it reverts the monolithic package back to 2021. I have tested it by compiling my current favourite latex file (very fast again) and "guix shell -C --pure -D texlive" (which works due to the dirty trick above). I have not tested biber, which I normally do not need and do not even know how it works (I happened to just have to use it blindly in a project with other people through a Makefile or latexmk or so). The next step I would like to try is to simplify the package by dropping things introduced for the modular system. And eventually update it to 2023. But given that each run easily takes an hour (unfortunately texlivetexmf suffers from a graft, which takes a long time to go through more than 3GB!), this can take a while. Definitely longer than today. But since we seem to be on the same page and your suggestion above corresponds to what I had already started on my side, the work will not be for nothing, and I am motivated to hopefully finish it over the summer. All the best, Andreas PS: While trying to push I noticed that there is a branch wip-texlive from January 2022; I suppose this can be deleted now? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: texlive is broken 2023-07-27 10:59 ` Andreas Enge @ 2023-08-07 11:53 ` Andreas Enge 2023-08-07 16:16 ` Andreas Enge 1 sibling, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Andreas Enge @ 2023-08-07 11:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: Ricardo Wurmus, 64827 Am Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 12:59:21PM +0200 schrieb Andreas Enge: > PS: While trying to push I noticed that there is a branch wip-texlive > from January 2022; I suppose this can be deleted now? Done. The branch appears to have been merged around that time. Andreas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: texlive is broken 2023-07-27 10:59 ` Andreas Enge 2023-08-07 11:53 ` Andreas Enge @ 2023-08-07 16:16 ` Andreas Enge 2023-08-09 7:39 ` Andreas Enge 1 sibling, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Andreas Enge @ 2023-08-07 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: Ricardo Wurmus, 64827 Hello, my suggestion for the monolithic texlive package is in the branch wip-texlive-mono. It is now updated to the latest version from 2023. Two phases and the --with-system-libgs configure flag can be dropped (which will also be the case for the modular package). So far, everything is in a separate module, texlive; I would be fine with leaving it there or moving it to the tex module. Also, it would probably be better to make the texlivebin and texlivetexmf packages non-public again. Apart from that, I think the commits can be applied on top of master. Andreas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: texlive is broken 2023-08-07 16:16 ` Andreas Enge @ 2023-08-09 7:39 ` Andreas Enge 2023-08-09 16:35 ` Nicolas Goaziou 0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Andreas Enge @ 2023-08-09 7:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: Ricardo Wurmus, 64827 Am Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 06:16:04PM +0200 schrieb Andreas Enge: > Two phases and the --with-system-libgs configure flag can be dropped > (which will also be the case for the modular package). And two more tests can also be dropped; I have compiled the package successfully on i686 and armhf without them. Andreas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: texlive is broken 2023-08-09 7:39 ` Andreas Enge @ 2023-08-09 16:35 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2023-08-09 19:02 ` Andreas Enge 0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2023-08-09 16:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas Enge; +Cc: Ricardo Wurmus, 64827 Hello, Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> writes: > Am Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 06:16:04PM +0200 schrieb Andreas Enge: >> Two phases and the --with-system-libgs configure flag can be dropped >> (which will also be the case for the modular package). > > And two more tests can also be dropped; I have compiled the package > successfully on i686 and armhf without them. It would be nice to list what simplifications can be done on `texlive-bin', so we can apply them on a new "texlive-team" branch. On a different topic, it is now possible to install both `texlive' and `texlive-biber' in a manifest, so re-instating the old `biber' package may introduce code duplication without much benefit. WDYT? Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: texlive is broken 2023-08-09 16:35 ` Nicolas Goaziou @ 2023-08-09 19:02 ` Andreas Enge 2023-08-13 20:48 ` Nicolas Goaziou 0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Andreas Enge @ 2023-08-09 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: Ricardo Wurmus, 64827 Hello, Am Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 06:35:22PM +0200 schrieb Nicolas Goaziou: > It would be nice to list what simplifications can be done on > `texlive-bin', so we can apply them on a new "texlive-team" branch. see the last commit on the wip-texlive-mono branch; the commit message and the diff should be quite clear. Concerning the branch itself, it can be directly applied to master once it is in shape, as nothing depends on the monolithic texlive. > On a different topic, it is now possible to install both `texlive' and > `texlive-biber' in a manifest, so re-instating the old `biber' package > may introduce code duplication without much benefit. WDYT? You mean the old/new monolithic texlive from the wip branch and texlive-biber work together? In that case we should indeed drop biber. Andreas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: texlive is broken 2023-08-09 19:02 ` Andreas Enge @ 2023-08-13 20:48 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2023-08-17 11:54 ` Andreas Enge 0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2023-08-13 20:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas Enge; +Cc: Ricardo Wurmus, 64827 Hello, Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> writes: > see the last commit on the wip-texlive-mono branch; the commit message > and the diff should be quite clear. Concerning the branch itself, it > can be directly applied to master once it is in shape, as nothing depends > on the monolithic texlive. I was talking about changes ported to the modular `texlive-bin'. Those need a dedicated branch. You're right, the changes are clear enough. > You mean the old/new monolithic texlive from the wip branch and > texlive-biber work together? In that case we should indeed drop biber. I don't know if the monolithic texlive from the wip branch does, but the current monolithic `texlive' can be installed without fuss alongside `texlive-biber'. I don't expect additional issues with `texlive' from the "wip" branch, tho. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: texlive is broken 2023-08-13 20:48 ` Nicolas Goaziou @ 2023-08-17 11:54 ` Andreas Enge 2023-08-17 12:10 ` Andreas Enge 0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Andreas Enge @ 2023-08-17 11:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: Ricardo Wurmus, 64827 Am Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 10:48:16PM +0200 schrieb Nicolas Goaziou: > I don't know if the monolithic texlive from the wip branch does, but the > current monolithic `texlive' can be installed without fuss alongside > `texlive-biber'. I don't expect additional issues with `texlive' from > the "wip" branch, tho. This was the starting point of the bug report; for instance guix shell texlive texlive-biber does not work, since having a package named "texlive-..." triggers the texlive font map creation profile hook, which does not work with the monolithic texlive. Interestingly, it does seem to work with my new monolithic texlive and texlive-biber. Hm, it also works on the master branch; so this has apparently been solved between commit 56667ee55cd7f3368cbff169352fe440f4f93da5 of ten days ago and now. Okay then, fine to remove biber again! Andreas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: texlive is broken 2023-08-17 11:54 ` Andreas Enge @ 2023-08-17 12:10 ` Andreas Enge 2023-08-17 13:17 ` Nicolas Goaziou 0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Andreas Enge @ 2023-08-17 12:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: Ricardo Wurmus, 64827 Am Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 01:54:58PM +0200 schrieb Andreas Enge: > Okay then, fine to remove biber again! Done in wip-texlive-mono. I also dropped disabling tests for mips64, as anyway we have no means of testing the architecture any more, so I see no point in complicating the build recipe. Where shall we go from here? Are you okay with me either pushing the package in its own texlive module where it is now, or moving the definition back into the tex module? In either case it would probably be a good idea to make the texlivebin and texlivetexmf variables private again. Andreas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: texlive is broken 2023-08-17 12:10 ` Andreas Enge @ 2023-08-17 13:17 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2023-08-17 14:31 ` Andreas Enge 0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2023-08-17 13:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas Enge; +Cc: Ricardo Wurmus, 64827 Hello, Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> writes: > Are you okay with me either pushing the package in its own texlive module > where it is now, or moving the definition back into the tex module? I think it is simpler to to use a new module, as there's currently much work going on in "tex.scm". Indeed, I'm currently in the process in packaging `texlive-scheme-full' (and could use some help, as I might lose my sanity along the way). Once this is done (if it is ever!), we will be able to remove monolithic Tex Live completely. > In either case it would probably be a good idea to make the texlivebin > and texlivetexmf variables private again. Sure. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: texlive is broken 2023-08-17 13:17 ` Nicolas Goaziou @ 2023-08-17 14:31 ` Andreas Enge 0 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Andreas Enge @ 2023-08-17 14:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: Ricardo Wurmus, 64827-done Am Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 03:17:55PM +0200 schrieb Nicolas Goaziou: > I think it is simpler to to use a new module, as there's currently much > work going on in "tex.scm". As nothing depends on it, I have just pushed the changes to master and deleted the wip branch. Thanks for your comments, Nicolas! As a last change, I have tried to use the current ruby instead of ruby@2.7 for building texlivebin, but it did not work. > Indeed, I'm currently in the process in packaging `texlive-scheme-full' > (and could use some help, as I might lose my sanity along the way). Once > this is done (if it is ever!), we will be able to remove monolithic Tex > Live completely. Something to be discussed in a separate forum; guix-devel? I am closing this bug now. Andreas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: Acknowledgement (Texlive-biber not installable) 2023-07-24 10:11 ` bug#64827: Acknowledgement (Texlive-biber not installable) Andreas Enge 2023-07-24 22:09 ` Ricardo Wurmus @ 2023-07-26 14:51 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2023-07-26 15:02 ` Andreas Enge 1 sibling, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2023-07-26 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas Enge; +Cc: Ricardo Wurmus, 64827 Hello, Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> writes: > Well, it looks like all of texlive broke for me. In a profile with texlive, > I now get this: > > $ pdflatex xyz.tex > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592653-2.6-1.40.25 (TeX Live 2023/GNU Guix) (preloaded format=pdflatex) > restricted \write18 enabled. > > kpathsea: Running mktexfmt pdflatex.fmt > mktexfmt: mktexfmt is using the following fmtutil.cnf files (in precedence order): > mktexfmt: mktexfmt is using the following fmtutil.cnf file for writing changes: > mktexfmt: /home/enge/.texlive2023/texmf-config/web2c/fmtutil.cnf Would it be possible to remove the ".texlive2023" directory? Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: Acknowledgement (Texlive-biber not installable) 2023-07-26 14:51 ` bug#64827: Acknowledgement (Texlive-biber not installable) Nicolas Goaziou @ 2023-07-26 15:02 ` Andreas Enge 2023-07-26 15:35 ` Nicolas Goaziou 0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Andreas Enge @ 2023-07-26 15:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: Ricardo Wurmus, 64827 Am Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 04:51:06PM +0200 schrieb Nicolas Goaziou: > Would it be possible to remove the ".texlive2023" directory? Yes. Compilation works now, but I still cannot install texlive and texlive-biber concurrently, and the incredible slowness also remains. Andreas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: Acknowledgement (Texlive-biber not installable) 2023-07-26 15:02 ` Andreas Enge @ 2023-07-26 15:35 ` Nicolas Goaziou 0 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2023-07-26 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas Enge; +Cc: Ricardo Wurmus, 64827 Hello, Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> writes: > Am Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 04:51:06PM +0200 schrieb Nicolas Goaziou: >> Would it be possible to remove the ".texlive2023" directory? > > Yes. Compilation works now, but I still cannot install texlive and > texlive-biber concurrently, and the incredible slowness also remains. As explained in another message, it may not be a good idea to install `texlive' and `texlive-biber' concurrently. If it must be, I suggest to install `texlive', `texlive-biber', _and_ `texlive-scheme-basic'. This way, you get both monolithic and a valid modular TeX Live on your system (`texlive-biber' alone does not make up for a valid modular TeX Live). You seem to have some clues about the slowness; you reported there are too many symlinks in monolithic TeX Live. This is not intended and should be fixed. HTH, Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: Acknowledgement (Texlive-biber not installable) 2023-07-24 9:52 bug#64827: Texlive-biber not installable Andreas Enge [not found] ` <handler.64827.B.169019239510118.ack@debbugs.gnu.org> @ 2023-07-24 21:23 ` Igor Gajsin via Bug reports for GNU Guix 2023-07-24 21:28 ` bug#64827: (no subject) Igor Gajsin via Bug reports for GNU Guix 2023-08-16 0:15 ` bug#64827: Texlive-biber not installable Vinicius Monego 3 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Igor Gajsin via Bug reports for GNU Guix @ 2023-07-24 21:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 64827 I had the similar issue. It seams the manual install of the `texlive-bin` package helped with that. -- With best regards, Igor Gajsin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: (no subject) 2023-07-24 9:52 bug#64827: Texlive-biber not installable Andreas Enge [not found] ` <handler.64827.B.169019239510118.ack@debbugs.gnu.org> 2023-07-24 21:23 ` Igor Gajsin via Bug reports for GNU Guix @ 2023-07-24 21:28 ` Igor Gajsin via Bug reports for GNU Guix 2023-08-16 0:15 ` bug#64827: Texlive-biber not installable Vinicius Monego 3 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Igor Gajsin via Bug reports for GNU Guix @ 2023-07-24 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 64827 Hi, I had a similar issue and install the «texlive-bin» package helped with that problem. -- With best regards, Igor Gajsin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: Texlive-biber not installable 2023-07-24 9:52 bug#64827: Texlive-biber not installable Andreas Enge ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2023-07-24 21:28 ` bug#64827: (no subject) Igor Gajsin via Bug reports for GNU Guix @ 2023-08-16 0:15 ` Vinicius Monego 2023-08-16 9:25 ` Nicolas Goaziou 3 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Vinicius Monego @ 2023-08-16 0:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 64827 Hi, I have a similar issue when trying to modify a profile containing jupyter or python-jupyterlab-server: guix shell jupyter python-jupyterlab-server Error: building TeX Live font maps... -builder for `/gnu/store/q6gakg3lp5rgmcyhmlf5fz7vnhw0vvaz-texlive-font- maps.drv' failed with exit code 1 a compilação de /gnu/store/q6gakg3lp5rgmcyhmlf5fz7vnhw0vvaz-texlive- font-maps.drv falhou Veja o log de compilação em "/var/log/guix/drvs/q6/gakg3lp5rgmcyhmlf5fz7vnhw0vvaz-texlive-font- maps.drv.gz". cannot build derivation `/gnu/store/j98hmraklblr70ggasarp49pk9jgih0d- profile.drv': 1 dependencies couldn't be built guix package: erro: build of `/gnu/store/j98hmraklblr70ggasarp49pk9jgih0d-profile.drv' failed Content of the decompressed the log file: Backtrace: 3 (primitive-load "/gnu/store/4msdwzccfp51zhmnkr61vvpdllz?")<br><br> In ice-9/eval.scm: 619:8 2 (_ #f) In ice-9/boot-9.scm: 140:2 1 (dynamic-wind #<procedure 7ffff2f3b080 at ice-9/eval.s?> ?) In unknown file: 0 (chdir "/tmp/texlive/share/texmf-dist") ERROR: In procedure chdir: In procedure chdir: No such file or directory Vinicius ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* bug#64827: Texlive-biber not installable 2023-08-16 0:15 ` bug#64827: Texlive-biber not installable Vinicius Monego @ 2023-08-16 9:25 ` Nicolas Goaziou 0 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2023-08-16 9:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Vinicius Monego; +Cc: 64827 Hello, Vinicius Monego <monego@posteo.net> writes: > > I have a similar issue when trying to modify a profile containing > jupyter or python-jupyterlab-server: > > guix shell jupyter python-jupyterlab-server [...] > ERROR: In procedure chdir: > In procedure chdir: No such file or directory Have you tried with a recent guix? Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
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