From: Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: Josselin Poiret <dev@jpoiret.xyz>,
Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr>,
Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>,
Mathieu Othacehe <othacehe@gnu.org>,
Christopher Baines <mail@cbaines.net>,
64188@debbugs.gnu.org, Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>
Subject: [bug#64188] [PATCH 0/8] More package tuning
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 11:34:38 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZJlNntyUudUkMbPT@3900XT> (raw)
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On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 10:47:42PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Hello Efraim,
>
> Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> skribis:
>
> > with gcc-11, gcc gained support for using -march=x86_64-v{1,2,3,4},
> > which I'm calling 'generic options,' as opposed to the more targeted
> > tuning we have with specific architectures.
>
> I don’t think these x86_64 psABI “architecture levels” should be treated
> specially:
>
> • From the point of view of ‘--tune’, they’re just another value that
> may be passed to ‘-march’.
>
> • My understanding is that those levels don’t match reality: as
> discussed in the original ‘--tune’ patch¹, CPUs actually produced
> don’t follow a pattern of strictly including features of one set.
> They’re really just a simplification to get more memorizable names,
> but it’s hard to tell whether a given CPU really covers the set of
> features of a given level.
They're also useful for glibc-hwcaps, so that we could build each
package multiple times and install libraries built for the psABI levels
into $prefix/lib/glibc-hwcaps/x86-64-v[234]/, but I agree that, for our
uses so far, they're not really useful.
> Overall, my take on this would be to add supported levels to
> ‘%gcc-11-x86_64-micro-architectures’ & co., without going further.
>
> WDYT?
I could see keeping the code from cpu->generic-architecture (renamed
cpu->psABI) either as a non-exported function or simply moved into the
fallback for x86_64.
> ¹ https://issues.guix.gnu.org/52283#0-lineno48
>
> [...]
>
> > go cpu tuning targets: I mostly used the chart¹ on the go website, and I
> > also checked the source code for go-1.18. I put in arm{5,6,7} as arm and
> > not armhf since armhf only works with armv7 and with go programs, since
> > they're statically linked, they can just be copied to other machines.
>
> Now if Go uses those names, (guix cpu) can provide helpers.
Go also uses power8 and power9 as PPC64(le) options, so that's also a
possible use-case I was trying to also prepare for. That was my plan for
the gcc-architecture->generic-architecture function, to allow for --tune
to work without needing to pass different values to different packages.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-26 8:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-20 7:48 [bug#64188] [PATCH 0/8] More package tuning Efraim Flashner
2023-06-20 7:51 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 1/8] gnu: %gcc-11-x86_64-micro-architectures: Add generic options Efraim Flashner
2023-06-25 20:49 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 0/8] More package tuning Ludovic Courtès
2023-06-20 7:51 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 2/8] guix: cpu: Add inexact CPU matching Efraim Flashner
2023-06-20 7:51 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 3/8] guix: cpu: Rewrite fallback for x86_64 cpu->gcc-architecture Efraim Flashner
2023-06-20 7:51 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 4/8] guix: cpu: Refactor cpu->gcc-architecture Efraim Flashner
2023-06-20 7:51 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 5/8] gnu: go: Add CPU tuning targets Efraim Flashner
2023-06-20 7:51 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 6/8] transformations: Allow tuning go packages Efraim Flashner
2023-06-25 20:52 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 0/8] More package tuning Ludovic Courtès
2023-06-26 8:34 ` Efraim Flashner
2023-07-13 15:27 ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-07-17 12:02 ` Efraim Flashner
2023-07-17 15:41 ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-07-18 11:17 ` Efraim Flashner
2023-07-19 8:39 ` Josselin Poiret via Guix-patches via
2023-08-07 7:33 ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-08-21 16:54 ` bug#64188: " Ludovic Courtès
2023-06-20 7:51 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 7/8] guix: cpu: Add gcc-architecture->generic-architecture mapping Efraim Flashner
2023-06-25 20:54 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 0/8] More package tuning Ludovic Courtès
2023-06-26 8:34 ` Efraim Flashner
2023-06-20 7:51 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 8/8] transformations: Allow autotuning for go packages Efraim Flashner
2023-06-25 20:47 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 0/8] More package tuning Ludovic Courtès
2023-06-26 8:34 ` Efraim Flashner [this message]
2023-06-26 12:38 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH v2 0/7] " Efraim Flashner
2023-06-26 12:38 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH v2 1/7] gnu: %gcc-11-x86_64-micro-architectures: Add psabi entries Efraim Flashner
2023-06-26 12:38 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH v2 2/7] guix: cpu: Add generalized CPU matching Efraim Flashner
2023-06-26 12:38 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH v2 3/7] guix: cpu: Rewrite fallback for x86_64 cpu->gcc-architecture Efraim Flashner
2023-06-26 12:38 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH v2 4/7] guix: cpu: Refactor cpu->gcc-architecture Efraim Flashner
2023-06-26 12:38 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH v2 5/7] guix: cpu: Add gcc-architecture->micro-architecture-level mapping Efraim Flashner
2023-06-26 12:38 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH v2 6/7] gnu: go: Add CPU tuning targets Efraim Flashner
2023-06-26 12:38 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH v2 7/7] transformations: Allow tuning go packages Efraim Flashner
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