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There is a template for AGI games but the license is > > strange too, and it also requires some software to build it, and I've > > no idea if it's compatible with QT AGI, and I've also no idea if QT > > AGI works, doesn't have nonfree dependencies, etc.=20 > >=20 > > So that makes things way more complicated because here it probably > > requires a lot of work to confirm that it's possible or not possible > > to develop programs that run inside ScummVM with free software. > I see we're hitting a recurring pattern of not knowing things. This is > not aided by my personal disinterest for ScummVM, but I have to weigh > that disinterest against the potential interest of thousands of users > who are likely to only discover this argument to have taken place after > we've reached a conclusion. >=20 > Note, that this discussion started IIRC a year ago and we have > practically known about actually existing FSDG violations since then.=20 > My approach here is quite simple and pragmatic: Remove the games which > obviously violate the FSDG (that is all the games currently depending > on ScummVM as far as I know), but keep ScummVM for now to allow folks > to experiment. If in some one to five years we still find no practical > way of using ScummVM with only free software, that might be a reason to > remove it then. >=20 > WDYT? 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