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From: Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: Brian Cully <bjc@spork.org>, Josselin Poiret <dev@jpoiret.xyz>,
	zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>,
	GNU Guix maintainers <guix-maintainers@gnu.org>,
	guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Release v1.4?
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2022 12:02:47 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YrrDt6iClTWsYUza@3900XT> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tu8c3jux.fsf@gnu.org>

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On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 03:31:34PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Brian Cully <bjc@spork.org> skribis:
> 
> > Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
> >
> >> So plain ‘emacs’ package doesn’t work on Wayland?  That sounds like
> >> a
> >> recipe for a poor user experience, no?
> >
> > The mainline Emacs is not Wayland-native, but it (along with just
> > about everything else) will run fine under XWayland. It's how I've
> > been running it for some time now. The user experience is almost
> > indistinguishable from either the ‘pgtk’ branch or the mainline,
> > X-only branch.
> >
> >> (FWIW folks like me who use exwm, ratpoison, or one of these geeky
> >> tiling window managers probably can’t switch.)
> >
> > This is correct, but I don't see why this should prevent Guix offering
> > the option for Wayland-based compositors/window-managers out of the
> > box as all it does is offer more options for users.
> 
> Sure.
> 
> > Unless I'm misunderstanding something, I don't believe that setting
> > the ‘wayland’ flag to #t in gdm-configuration causes Wayland to be
> > used for your desktop environment, it merely *allows* it to be
> > selected from the greeter. When logging in you can select from Gnome
> > under X, Gnome under Wayland, or other window managers you may have
> > installed under either environment. Without that flag only the X11
> > window managers will be selectable.
> 
> OK, I wasn’t aware of that; if setting ‘wayland?’ to #t is this smooth
> and basically indistinguishable for those who want to stick with X, then
> I guess we should enable it.
> 
> I’m still unsure whether doing is before the release is reasonable,
> given how much we have on our plate.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ludo’.

I think the only real question is what shows up first by default in a
fresh install. I believe by default SDDM will show the window manager
that was last used by default.

My current OS config, when I spin it up in a VM, lists
enlightenment/wayland before enlightenment/X11. I didn't test with
gnome.

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-28  9:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-01  8:35 Release v1.4? zimoun
2022-06-03 16:41 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-05 17:57   ` zimoun
2022-06-05 22:31     ` vidak
2022-06-06 15:39       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-06-06 21:17   ` Merging ‘staging’? Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-08 11:50     ` Efraim Flashner
2022-06-08 21:24       ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-10  7:57         ` Efraim Flashner
2022-06-11  9:53           ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-11 10:49             ` Tom Fitzhenry
2022-06-12  3:58             ` Efraim Flashner
2022-06-12 21:08               ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-13  7:03                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-14  4:01                   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2022-06-14 10:32                   ` Release ? (was: Merging ‘staging’?) zimoun
2022-06-14 13:08                     ` Efraim Flashner
2022-06-15  9:21                       ` Release ? Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-09 17:19     ` Merging ‘staging’? pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-06-09 17:41       ` Efraim Flashner
2022-06-09 19:02         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-06-10  6:07           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-06-11  7:35           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-07-15 10:52       ` Rock64 segfaults (was: Merging ‘staging’?) Timotej Lazar
2022-06-12  4:54     ` Merging ‘staging’? Thiago Jung Bauermann
2022-06-12 21:06       ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-10 15:47   ` Release v1.4? Josselin Poiret
2022-06-15  8:54     ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-15 16:51       ` Gábor Boskovits
2022-06-16  8:59       ` Josselin Poiret
2022-06-17 15:31         ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-17 15:37           ` Brian Cully via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2022-06-19  3:33             ` Further thoughts on Xorg "vs" Wayland etc -- was: " bokr
2022-06-19 18:16             ` Philip McGrath
2022-06-22 13:31             ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-28  9:02               ` Efraim Flashner [this message]
2022-06-17 15:45           ` Josselin Poiret

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