From: Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il>
To: Brian Cully <bjc@spork.org>
Cc: Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu>,
Felix Lechner <felix.lechner@gmail.com>,
Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@reproducible-builds.org>,
guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: maradns reproducibility fixes and the merits of picking a random number
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2022 14:48:19 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YqCMg+xTWXF/qU1d@3900XT> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8735ggfz3v.fsf@ditto.jhoto.spork.org>
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On Tue, Jun 07, 2022 at 08:11:54AM -0400, Brian Cully via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution. wrote:
>
> > > The upstream website says: "People like MaraDNS because it’s ...
> > > remarkably secure." [1] Since many distributions have the same
> > > issue,
> > > upstream could perhaps offer the patch as a build switch to enable a
> > > build-time seed only when needed.
> >
> > Sounds like the safest option. Maybe we could change the code that uses
> > that number to naise an exception or abort?
>
> This seems like the best option to me, as well: either add a flag to
> explicitly enable embedding a constant, or remove the code entirely and
> replace it with a build failure (or runtime failure, if a build failure is
> not possible). It seems like a mis-feature to me to embed a constant seed,
> and invites silent misconfiguration which will lead to security breaches.
>
> -bjc
I like the idea of forcing the program to segfault if it looks for
/dev/urandom and it isn't there more than distributing a randomized
prime number.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-06-08 12:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-06-07 1:49 maradns reproducibility fixes and the merits of picking a random number Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-07 3:24 ` Felix Lechner
2022-06-07 5:20 ` Julien Lepiller
2022-06-07 12:11 ` Brian Cully via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2022-06-08 11:48 ` Efraim Flashner [this message]
2022-06-08 14:09 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-06-08 11:47 ` Efraim Flashner
2022-06-08 20:33 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-23 2:05 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-28 1:31 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-28 9:30 ` Efraim Flashner
2022-06-28 15:39 ` Jack Hill
2022-06-28 16:04 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-06-28 16:18 ` Gábor Boskovits
2022-06-28 16:33 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-28 19:06 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-06-28 19:15 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-07-12 2:36 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-07-12 2:41 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-07-18 11:21 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-07-19 13:09 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-06-07 15:15 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-08 19:28 ` Arun Isaac
2022-06-08 20:25 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-14 17:16 ` Philip McGrath
2022-06-08 19:43 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-06-08 20:23 ` Vagrant Cascadian
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