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aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=famulari.name header.s=mesmtp header.b=VPiATO20; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm1 header.b="k/GoEdPU"; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.43 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=famulari.name header.s=mesmtp header.b=VPiATO20; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm1 header.b="k/GoEdPU"; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 6933229D2 X-Spam-Score: -3.43 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: I5iUDpmRznLp On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 04:52:19PM +0000, Maxime Devos wrote: > Are there any good reasons for having a timeout at all? > (Except for the local-user denial of service, but local users can do > "guix build -f something-that-allocates-almost-all-memory-and-melts- > the-cpu.scm" anyway ...) > > If not, can the timeout be disabled/set to infinity? Could be. But I think that, based on a several years of reports, the X200 with an HDD is the slowest machine used with Guix System. On my X200 with HDD, I have personally experienced similar race-y bugs that seem to crop up after major upgrades --- I assume that it's a case of bad luck, where important programs for booting move to distant parts of the disk and seeking is too slow. > A comment like > > > ;; Set timeout to a huge number (16.6 hours), because > > ;; upstream often sets timeouts low for spinning disks, > > ;; slow CPUs, etc. > > (limit [...] "60000") > > could be useful (I'm assuming the timeout is in seconds here). I suggest we wait until such drastic action is necessary. Otherwise we might be banging our heads against the wall in a few years, trying to debug something. Let's not rush to extremes :)