On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 02:30:10PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Hi, > > Leo Famulari skribis: > > > On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 11:44:47PM +0200, Leo Prikler wrote: > >> It is probably still a somewhat long and bumpy road, but in my personal > >> opinion one that has an end. > >> @lfam, ludo, efraim: WDYT? > > > > To me, it seems like we are applying a slightly higher standard to this > > patch than to other submissions of complex packages whose functionality > > is difficult to evaluate. > > No no, I was careful to apply the same standards. :-) My main > question is whether it’s usable at all: > > https://issues.guix.gnu.org/48924#1 > > Tony’s use case has to do with satisfying the dependencies of a > binary-only proprietary executable: > > https://issues.guix.gnu.org/48924#2 > > To me, that use case alone isn’t enough to justify maintaining systemd > in Guix proper. > > However, if, as Efraim suggests, a systemd package has some uses, at > least on foreign distros, then that’s fine with me. It’s a very narrow > use case (running ‘loginctl’ on a foreign distro), but why not. > > Thoughts? > > Ludo’. This actually works better for on Guix System than on a foreign distro (ins)efraim@3900XT ~/workspace/guix$ /gnu/store/khpdv70slxmvrla1q8lnkkq1cxv9pm75-systemd-247/bin/loginctl -H g4 list-sessions SESSION UID USER SEAT TTY 1 118 sddm seat0 12683 1000 efraim seat0 tty2 13 1000 efraim seat0 tty3 15005 1000 efraim pts/2 4 sessions listed. (ins)efraim@3900XT ~/workspace/guix$ loginctl -H g4 list-sessions bash: line 1: elogind-stdio-bridge: command not found That said, the package definitely needs some work. The source URI is autogenerated, we shouldn't need glibc as an input, and I'm guessing that setting all the config directories to out would cause problems. Not to mention the extra bits that don't add any value to Guix System. -- Efraim Flashner אפרים פלשנר GPG key = A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted