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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1620153536; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=PUEsIzfcfToZh49TmOANyEabzbohmM6FTIpJUpB5sug=; b=qDKtqpDxqd5Ju7raGf6W6TqeYSYQbZ8vD3u6hfMVxBAaLZBXUZSFPrYzK1MOITzBDZKTgx W4ddpU3dUxbY1dUY42oAMCrYfo2gQ/EucjCxOhQCS6ibs9Nl1Dc5kCydrM6RDRk2AmA4uV L5F9UKmvz+aDl1rQ1oFbFfdCKeElW1d0lb3DbUDvXjbpUBlJTua2YZO8djXydiPU1TWewG WtZji8t/Aoy8PJpX8Ry/x3Vwqvarh5oErWTJm/q34x3NnEU+NyeXqSM+VQPojOBQjauREP UhJdIpV+5JX9veWYxeopxyD5SeZMUPRmgBKdlDjPMt8YF63l81Xpm4cfRJgRxA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1620153536; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=FcPZlQHlee674YSIFTz6E5ItQLurm7HEY3cVYkQtUmErFuHkiHTcVPfyaPRl/Zt6CACrZY jjX0+1fbnMJDs8QukN/gVgAM1SoRGqvTtTOhkLWim6u1cIWgbQzGTH8yAhggXc75jwJMkf B+czEa2js3AdmJosIC/2jtyi8FWepBYF+XSFRIBEIXuyl3PeO6pqC4UIYmYgAE5O2cCnP4 LT51Va2vhPgPw9ZJ4rP2HQR5G8Jdle0tAUUAmHEDLBxnQgSEKtIpHu9IY7/8Lk1asepQA1 /8DP627rzLUo1cB6vPIskMIFmslfB5f5nCMTepcfaswxsMTrty15AMsOTic2pg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.96 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 199E119643 X-Spam-Score: -1.96 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: /EFkBE2erIuF Hello Chris, Am Sat, May 01, 2021 at 07:56:05PM +0100 schrieb Christopher Baines: > I think there are some benefits for using the Guix Build Coordinator to > build things for substitutes, and it would be good to work out how to > get those benefits to users of Guix generally. my question is a bit tangential, but how can we get the substitutes that the build coordinator puts on bayfront? I still have bayfront.guix.info in my list of substitute servers, but does it use the same signing key as before? It would be nice to document what a user should do. In my opinion, a second build farm would be a useful thing, in case one server goes down, or needs to be updated, for instance. (And then it allows for reproducibility checks.) Relatedly, and this may already be documented: How do I know where the packages are downloaded from? $ guix package -u substitute: updating substitutes from 'https://bayfront.guix.info'... 100.0% substitute: updating substitutes from 'https://ci.guix.gnu.org'... 100.0% imagemagick-6.9.12-4-doc 4.6MiB 1.6MiB/s 00:01 [##### ] 32.5% Before the print format overhaul, the full URL would be printed. Does the guix daemon complain when substitute URLs do not match any authorised key? I know this should probably go to help-guix, but my questions fit the thread ;-) Andreas