From: Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il>
To: Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Rust team branch (was Re: Discussion notes on releases and branches)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2023 12:14:04 +0200 [thread overview]
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On Thu, Feb 09, 2023 at 01:19:28PM +0100, Andreas Enge wrote:
> Attached are the notes of our discussion at the Guix Days concerning
> releases, branches, teams and related matters.
>
> Andreas
>
> BRANCHES
>
> Suggestion:
> - Spin off a stable branch from master with security fixes, maybe important
> backports; after 6 months, branch a new stable branch from master; this
> is almost like a release, but continued into some future.
>
> Counter-suggestion:
> - Create branches with a few patches or patchsets; in any case with
> a "semantic" description of the changes. The branches could be
> shortlived. Feature branches are one incarnation of the concept.
> - The numerical criteria for staging and core-updates is outdated:
> Even non-core packages may create an enormous number of rebuilds.
> - Negative point: There is a risk of churn, by not regrouping world-
> rebuilding changes - but two non related world rebuilding changes
> might be difficult to review.
>
> Before creating new branches, we need to clarify how the old branches
> are handled!
>
> - Smaller branches could be taken care of by dedicated persons
> responsible for pushing them forward. For instance by teams.
> - Some people already do this for a feature branch on their local
> machine for medium-sized updates (ocaml), or even on ci (haskell,
> kernel updates).
> - Branch creators should fix a goal and tentative timeline.
> - We need a mapping between branches and maintainers responsible
> for the merge. This could be a team leader, if such a role is created.
> A wiki could be used to keep track of the branches.
> - There is discussion whether we need a core-updates branch.
> Core updates concern the toolchain, build phase changes, everything
> that has big ramifications all over the system. It would be important
> to not have several "parallel" branches with related (for instance,
> but not exclusively, core-update) changes, which in fact should come
> one after the other. Either they could be collected in one branch,
> or would require coordination of branch creation (inside a team, say).
> - "Merge trains" of gitlab are mentioned, as a way of merging several
> branches at the same time.
> - Grafts can also be handled in feature branches: The graft is applied
> to master; the graft is applied to a different branch, directly followed
> by an ungrafting commit and an update of the corresponding package;
> once the branch is built it is merged back to master.
> - Minor drawback: If qa has treated a world-rebuilding patch, the
> substitutes will be available on bordeaux, but not on berlin; people
> who have installed a long time ago and not authorised bordeaux might
> be affected. If there are complaints, they can be handled on the
> mailing list.
> - Moving fast poses problems for non-x86 architectures, but the build farm
> situation has improved for aarch64 and armhf sufficiently to keep up
> with master. Handling feature branches remains an unsolved problem.
> - Currently there is a cap on qa, only patches with at most 300 dependents
> are treated. This cap could be increased. Or it could be weighed with
> the build times of the packages.
>
>
> TEAMS
>
> - Issues could be tagged more often with responsible teams, or with
> severity information (blocking bug or not).
> - Each module should be covered by a team; otherwise it would be
> difficult to get important updates through a feature branches.
On behalf of the Rust Team™¹ we'd like to check our rust source tarballs
for any hidden binaries² and to do a mass upgrade of many of the crates.
Currently there are many crates queued up in the staging branch but we'd
like to pull them out and run a rust-team branch.
As a project we haven't setup anything for starting the team-based
branches and upgrades, and the Rust Team volunteers to go first.
Although the rust team would consider adding librsvg (and
python-cryptography) to our list of packages, we'd like to not touch it
this round, to keep it "small" (as far as rust goes) as a test.
¹ Help wanted
² https://issues.guix.gnu.org/61352
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Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-09 12:19 Discussion notes on releases and branches Andreas Enge
2023-02-12 21:13 ` Moving forward with teams and feature branches (was: Discussion notes on releases and branches) Josselin Poiret
2023-02-12 21:34 ` Andreas Enge
2023-02-13 9:32 ` Time for RFC? (was Re: Moving forward with teams and feature branches (was: Discussion notes on releases and branches)) zimoun
2023-02-13 14:04 ` bug#61475: Staging branch (was: Moving forward with teams and feature branches) Andreas Enge
2023-05-10 2:55 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-13 14:07 ` Moving forward with teams and feature branches (was: Discussion notes on releases and branches) Andreas Enge
2023-02-14 19:12 ` Leo Famulari
2023-02-13 9:22 ` Release (was " Simon Tournier
2023-02-14 10:14 ` Efraim Flashner [this message]
2023-02-14 16:36 ` Rust team branch Andreas Enge
2023-02-14 20:07 ` Efraim Flashner
2023-02-16 10:56 ` Andreas Enge
2023-02-14 16:36 ` Rust team branch (was Re: Discussion notes on releases and branches) Katherine Cox-Buday
2023-02-14 20:08 ` Efraim Flashner
2023-02-15 17:49 ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2023-03-17 15:24 ` Discussion notes on releases and branches Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2023-03-18 17:42 ` Leo Famulari
2024-12-13 8:37 ` On the quest for a new release model (was: Discussion notes on releases and branches) Cayetano Santos
2024-12-13 12:03 ` On the quest for a new release model Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-13 13:01 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 15:21 ` Greg Hogan
2024-12-13 15:52 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 16:05 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 16:28 ` Cayetano Santos
2024-12-13 17:21 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 20:34 ` Cayetano Santos
2024-12-13 22:13 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-13 22:27 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 23:08 ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-12-14 1:38 ` John Kehayias via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-12-14 17:18 ` kiasoc5
2024-12-14 18:00 ` Cayetano Santos
2024-12-14 20:53 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-12-15 8:44 ` Efraim Flashner
2024-12-15 16:43 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-15 20:21 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-15 22:49 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-15 23:33 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-16 9:43 ` Efraim Flashner
2024-12-16 13:30 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-12-16 16:28 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-18 16:48 ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-12-18 17:31 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-18 17:42 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-19 17:56 ` Greg Hogan
2024-12-20 12:06 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-12-21 13:18 ` Andreas Enge
2024-12-20 22:07 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2024-12-19 18:03 ` Greg Hogan
2024-12-20 12:17 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-12-16 10:47 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-12-16 16:14 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-18 18:54 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2024-12-13 16:04 ` Simon Josefsson via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-12-13 17:47 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 20:14 ` Tomas Volf
2024-12-13 22:13 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14 8:59 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-14 14:23 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14 12:26 ` Tomas Volf
2024-12-14 14:49 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14 8:53 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-14 17:21 ` Splitting up Guix channel (was: On the quest for a new release model) Suhail Singh
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