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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1676237690; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=n7JAW3wT7ppeXosPQ+WaN4uslhBaehF2YLZh/Wcmo9m7pKGOt5Zx4qRYhkfkwH2lLLIqq6 8gWSqxUl8LUYYKYOA/KeFCMR3TzqdISJESuu5EZ/MriP4bLY2SJewgas5LsNBT53VsDteL LB4fNT7oNBnvgFBYFSrlm7MDeVR9p6Sntsq59kdmYkyDYnv6RLIToB2Y1u98gndZj+ZkOM 4Ib8Gz0M9QtgAkc1azbqPI/dG43vgdpUr9a0b752e+QD5B+7JZW9rMXU1+RkujnVLQvAPi ovyf0YYnhYXrkdlu9ELLN8H+Xyea49pShX0uRzYusnZz5K+H45C0nhLF8DhjUg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1676237690; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=KTdyymlPXfZm8TGFTvabYJim4v397yPaX5CFZ+Qk0Go=; b=lNJbFxcqxm2BGfo1OAaFksDAUSzV62z6Ikdc5wwfzf9B+7g3CTllk1ZabSVp3c59Sx5gFD NwJa7V0/2YyjzEWAh+4ouQkT0fIcbyEXIpXnyMCeYKeKcWLGzM5J1m3exQGT8iOwG4IZw9 8dsWaD2NJFrNW405uSVIEg7e28hVl1YP8FaSrgWQHzG7T2eDnQXDmY8/6wGiVCBoxt6+a3 bjuye2AQFIVJhZ0xTavjabvy+y3r7cYxRHuCId48msGqkadKMxq/8KScHzInICXfVhvG/I /Em6y75rmp4e+uj5G31KBG+GGdGbWt52twnSwcEtNsBaUSSWr6k/8DoNSOEEzA== X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7727A12584 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.42 X-Spam-Score: -1.42 X-TUID: oIl+Xe3CbV9U Hello Josselin, Am Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 10:13:35PM +0100 schrieb Josselin Poiret: > For a potential roadmap (doesn't have to be sequential): > 1. Document this workflow in the manual, in a dedicated node, with a > rationale as well. One thing worth mentioning would be how to handle > grafting/ungrafting now. Also remove the staging/core-updates > criterion. > 2. Teams start organizing around the features they are currently working > on, and document them accordingly. They can also draft how they work, > what they do and their roadmap if they wish. > 3. CI/QA gets examined and updated to support the new workflow. We test > it out with a sample feature. > 4. staging merge happens, and the branch gets deleted. > 5. core-updates merge happens, and the branch gets deleted or > repurposed (up to the core team). This (and the other points you wrote) sound good to me. I would start with 4. and 5., and in parallel consider 1. to 3. Andreas