From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp11.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id SB8NDitzB2Pe2QAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2022 15:03:39 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp11.migadu.com with LMTPS id 6GXvDStzB2MtugAA9RJhRA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2022 15:03:39 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1C1C39338 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2022 15:03:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:56126 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oRCWH-0000v5-AD for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2022 09:03:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35148) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oRCVA-0000Qt-9n for help-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2022 09:02:28 -0400 Received: from mail-4324.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.24]:24171) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oRCV6-0005EZ-Nw for help-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2022 09:02:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2022 13:01:49 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1661432520; x=1661691720; bh=aPretnISRRZmhH3+tk+tCkRCw41cfxFbaH3IHzNJ8S8=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To: Feedback-ID:Message-ID; b=CBY3eNsM9yNjzimQcK5bMTHyu9meGpftsJu1ZSeIJ6xu5UkhsSVa2oyhvIscCSj68 /VbIfA/ZJTvx7Z237UP1F0MVNHxc2zqNt4Fzpb+BG/ibJVKG8wuQfD3zin6nT2DRBI K2dLXTmpptSgL/cknFvfDD/OobLZz1zOd+epW+ttsvPNbSXFkO9VWfyEQmNW5LT2Jr RaY+AcYAK5lyUP0st5AZMnsRd0+iT3ufHQt7ePktAR1IhPu5kOgEn8pmic8Dpuv9oq O/+CfdRCPIEkSaJSfGX2UoyFnwlcJdUQfO1qFaM9oCClKxaNceqPZuSiFyzV1RGS1b KGhBABy/jfV2Q== To: Csepp From: Luis Felipe Cc: help-guix@gnu.org Subject: Re: What Python IDE are you using? 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I'll put it on the list. Thanks, ra= ingloom :) > > = > > I think I'm going to explore vim further as my fallback editor. It > > seems like that's the first step to understand kakoune (I couldn't get > > started with kakoune Get started! document :]). > > = > > raingloom, did you move from vim to kakoune? If that was the case, did= you found something annoying when programming Python in vim? > > = > > [2. application/pgp-keys; publickey - luis.felipe.la@protonmail.com - = 0x12DE1598.asc]... > > = > > [[End of PGP Signed Part]] > = > = > I went through the vim tutorial a few years ago, tried neovim for a > while, but haven't used it in years. I tend to switch between editors. > Before Kakoune I used Acme for a long time, which inspired some features > of Kakoune. I also use Emacs quite a bit. > I tried Kakoune mostly because I really liked the ideas in Acme but > didn't like how anti-keyboard it was. The simple orthogonal > configuration language and its focus on multiple selections were very > appealing too. I don't like old editors with crusted up config > languages and UX conventions. I could never really "git gud" at neovim, > so I abandoned it, but Kakoune just "clicked" after 1-2 afternoons of > noodling around in it. I see... 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