From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:303:e224::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms1.migadu.com with LMTPS id iHWtGKoyGWZvEQAAqHPOHw:P1 (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:10:02 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:303:e224::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0.migadu.com with LMTPS id iHWtGKoyGWZvEQAAqHPOHw (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:10:02 +0200 X-Envelope-To: larch@yhetil.org Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=lendvai.name header.s=protonmail header.b=W9X2CXPq; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=lendvai.name ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1712927402; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=n2LfVbKfxWakECHhwqUhd+pDlB14GMLjRoqxTLVCOoA=; b=ecwFEMDcH5rsVCqPMVj9Myk81glx9iTLaSlYjyVXd7Vtx5H8roy79xauHgwXedgOswoORN eoM9nkCMIQPSJiwllciiAgeZ/UG5OLBXVUAuzwqkMT2Ew7AfKqqaerzZNhyZuvJfZo7+lo zJWrOw9W9wWvQIMVvOenhujs2v2nw5ra7eDR9KWJ1tnjt7AUQfORaT+I0G6ZlWNoBbo+GV 7UKfiSZz5Bawn2J69s/2vkhwf3NbLEqIM2pxx6l9GPkKjUPzZolEDfH8shldngtwGAmfNK 44eJrBnsEb54YzFBeRqBl9UrFiSqgqusXGh7/H7w4kzHrhhFEXCMoQDhNdRtIQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1712927402; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=qWiF47hAFYP5wal8HKdDomGbfejt5c6QlrZPVVYAVZcRuCj/i0VQvQnHXR4Upync6TjEj8 srsDPRc2MJ1SnNmaWpg5LOOEZ2hWCk2W/lg73BqD6GgWqKr/ky4HKSa/fUl6m6XZys38W9 eU80vXrNPV6E9/wOCdQ/PhW3zU0c4UvSCgfXR9ORSrwFAEfHPMahQrGbWIKLpL62JXR5t/ yuUSRlThfwbOl1FNpIabC5Jey9kyC/MBmophXG26ptkasYdh6rrq1nYHUzzoRqj+/msLEU lZZCIPuMRDarFHTuQB8i9I3a+7c/hWdT9OpdeRme/h3j17NGrsW7OTfz/rs14Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=lendvai.name header.s=protonmail header.b=W9X2CXPq; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=lendvai.name Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BDE391ECA5 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:10:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rvGei-0007U1-Q6; Fri, 12 Apr 2024 09:09:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rvGeg-0007Tc-Rp for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Apr 2024 09:09:22 -0400 Received: from mail-40136.proton.ch ([185.70.40.136]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rvGec-0003Lv-Re for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Apr 2024 09:09:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lendvai.name; s=protonmail; t=1712927353; x=1713186553; bh=n2LfVbKfxWakECHhwqUhd+pDlB14GMLjRoqxTLVCOoA=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=W9X2CXPquSfeLIkveNPi7MKF3EMamc6GpEGCh8LClNjksUYyK1Icw6LYkGhpuM0DB 2VmaROqj5agrImvBT3ji9t6ZenU92HRVWgKHrUe+7jiKJFRcimLjipiISc2hp8dAwy vhVDVZ+aEocbxrLhXcv+zjZ4lsP7I+FeV4U+zd48xlO5ufzbhOVe/2a7piWmqWZGXN IpavBMZxCGlvNSJYVHTfI7zRCSxkJkfNHmcveXR69wSm2fWjWUxBdF/0LbYdhqpuLG p//xnffucDfeTU8OdCpUhhVA+4CFo1dSwQoLeV/gBrv9Och9Tpa1onvv+dbAqJaAiR 9snMy5dlbMoSQ== Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 13:09:04 +0000 To: Andreas Enge From: Attila Lendvai Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= , Ekaitz Zarraga , Giovanni Biscuolo , Guix Devel Subject: Re: backdoor injection via release tarballs combined with binary artifacts (was Re: Backdoor in upstream xz-utils) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <87ttkon4c4.fsf@protonmail.com> <8734s1mn5p.fsf@xelera.eu> <87zfu9ku4l.fsf@xelera.eu> <6e743725-26f0-669c-b088-e56c850110c8@elenq.tech> <87wmp5l3r3.fsf@gnu.org> Feedback-ID: 28384833:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.40.136; envelope-from=attila@lendvai.name; helo=mail-40136.proton.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -9.02 X-Spam-Score: -9.02 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: BDE391ECA5 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-TUID: OJsjePdUgBN4 > > I think we should gradually move to building everything from > > source=E2=80=94i.e., fetching code from VCS and adding Autoconf & co. a= s inputs. >=20 >=20 > the big drawback of this approach is that we would lose maintainers' > signatures, right? it's possible to sign git commits and (annotated) tags, too. it's good practice to enable signing by default. admittedly though, few people sign all their commits, and even fewer sign t= heir tags. --=20 =E2=80=A2 attila lendvai =E2=80=A2 PGP: 963F 5D5F 45C7 DFCD 0A39 -- =E2=80=9CNever appeal to a man's "better nature". He may not have one. Invo= king his self-interest gives you more leverage.=E2=80=9D =09=E2=80=94 Robert Heinlein (1907=E2=80=931988), 'Time Enough For Love' (1= 973)