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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -11.63 X-Spam-Score: -11.63 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E8B6F44EEA X-TUID: +qSsE67cSCjy This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --------aa83c29e23fd434f75e32f6c5165f2cfeffac91832f5e4f345bb0cc8efe3549b Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary=---------------------77906ba3259b7de6f918fe03beae43ef -----------------------77906ba3259b7de6f918fe03beae43ef Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Hi, This is a proposal to help differentiate Guix, the package manager, from G= uix System. Background: As far as I understand, Guix was supposed to be GNU's package manager, and GNU was supposed to be the operating system: two prod= ucts with two different websites. Unfortunatelly, that didn't happen and t= he Guix website became the home for two products: Guix, the package manage= r, and Guix System, a distribution of the GNU operating system. Since then= , both products have been presented almost as a single one in the website.= Probably as a result of this some people call both products by the same n= ame (Guix), and some other people don't understand what =C2=ABGuix=C2=BB i= s by skimming through the home page. I've seen comments related to this issue in different places through the y= ears. Some examples: 2018-01-17 =C2=B7 website: say what Guix is at the very top https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2018-01/msg00232.html 2020-01-02 =C2=B7 How to present Guix to a wider audience https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2020-01/msg00002.html 2022-09-16 =C2=B7 Guix as a tool for computational science https://10years.guix.gnu.org/video/guix-as-a-tool-for-computational-scienc= e/ Proposal: In summary, I'd like to propose clearer product differentiation,= starting with the following changes: 0. Main menu: Change Overview and Download items to Overview =E2=80=A2 Package manager =E2=80=A2 Operating system Download =E2=80=A2 Package manager =E2=80=A2 Operating system 1. Home page: Focus on Guix, the package manager. 2. Download page: Likewise. 3. Operating system home page: New page. 4. Operating system download page: New page. The following mockups illustrate the proposed changes. You can start in th= e Home page mockup, and click links to go to the other mockups. If your br= owser doesn't support PDF, you can find a PNG version of each mockup in th= e same URL paths (simply change the "pdf" extension to "png"). =C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7 Resource: Home page Path: https://guix.gnu.org/ Mockup: https://luis-felipe.gitlab.io/downloads/temp/guix-website-2023-09-= 21-LF/home-page.pdf =C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7 Resource: Download page Path: https://guix.gnu.org/en/download/ Mockup: https://luis-felipe.gitlab.io/downloads/temp/guix-website-2023-09-= 21-LF/download-package-manager-page.pdf =C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7 Resource: OS Home page Path: https://guix.gnu.org/en/operating-system/ Mockup: https://luis-felipe.gitlab.io/downloads/temp/guix-website-2023-09-= 21-LF/os-home-page.pdf =C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7 Resource: OS Download page Path: https://guix.gnu.org/operating-system/download/ Mockup: https://luis-felipe.gitlab.io/downloads/temp/guix-website-2023-09-= 21-LF/download-os-page.pdf =C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7 (The source files of the mockups can be found in https://codeberg.org/luis= -felipe/guix-graphics/ in the "mockups" directory.) I can help implement several of the proposed changes. Subsequent changes (hinted in the mockups) with the same goal of product d= ifferentiation could be: 5. Guix Features section in the manual: Improve it. + Separate in sections to make it easier to browse + List forgotten functional features (if any) + List non-functional features + Compare with similar products 6. Guix System Features section in the manual: Add it. 7. Guix System Configurations page: A collection of configurations, ideall= y of real systems currently used in production environments. That's it for now. 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