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Resent-From: Pierre-Henry =?UTF-8?Q?Fr=C3=B6hring?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53827 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: 53827@debbugs.gnu.org, Maxime Devos Received: via spool by 53827-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53827.16450266376502 (code B ref 53827); Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:51:02 +0000 Received: (at 53827) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Feb 2022 15:50:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49268 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nKMZg-0001gn-Nd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Feb 2022 10:50:37 -0500 Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:51909) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nKMZf-0001gY-0N for 53827@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Feb 2022 10:50:35 -0500 Received: (Authenticated sender: contact@phfrohring.com) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6BB946000A; Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:50:27 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Pierre-Henry =?UTF-8?Q?Fr=C3=B6hring?= Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 16:50:26 +0100 Message-Id: References: <877d9vx7b3.fsf_-_@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <877d9vx7b3.fsf_-_@gnu.org> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (19C63) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-patches" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1645026725; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:resent-cc: resent-from:resent-sender:resent-message-id:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=32Eru04CWmL5UFX0SJqscxP9F5xE+RjG5CH7eASFxJA=; b=K6VivWVQegZ8W1Nolz4A9fHnkkYuI8eL3r31qGl9ER0CqqKMivUTeKKut4ckpx0sS2biqw DYgASkzF7mZw7kqa+f1fhgbeNOO+cTMnVc+T3D7f4PImy/VWB7hDrgIpRLnZPyfArjetbm W8JAAiv7pikrOPA/UaIXAeZkxtxdqLTLtMIVTnyH3RNFPbEMQw0vRPiGfoejkMdAtryxLS 2cFKV7Pe9DI7u+RXfDMiIR3XYS8e8T2ohtN8zQngdAX3hwkSgBkbASM3A4vgNBOgLR+Y0i 7xSBN1nT/VPtUFkGrqICXAZIfKAdbyd0QZTrphB5ERb7QrRRyn6ZiqR+goFUCw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1645026725; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=aaIsErc2epORpNCCL0iC8CsbkSM5PNNQUdIksdkYdlPQuYxOrZPRN43uNZnog1vsYETzjd KFMf+YQHO8M3CMgXjVLVCMVvJCpAgu25j9qs8ke3cRwvv9BZim4d4Af6f58BjvTNJzcxHE Jd+sOKEG0bPS1oe10Z3c6qB7vbYPaC/Dg4BR75FnzFqJBdB504H8wIwQHKPjaS4d6aEECj YWaWqWoXdG6kukb7I7+L7G+/r1liwzVtjS293aheEMv0H0kb8YL7I2HBIAn4lwgOkjQKTL +Cp7tvImSu/kneuNH/aRQwtwgAoLM/0JnE/IpdCNU/5ApkgUVaQXiqbUtMppoA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.13 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: DEDBC3FDB8 X-Spam-Score: -3.13 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: WZPe5oT9c6GS Envoy=C3=A9 de mon iPhone > Le 16 f=C3=A9vr. 2022 =C3=A0 14:36, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s a =C3= =A9crit : >=20 > =EF=BB=BFHi, >=20 > Pierre-Henry Fr=C3=B6hring skribis: >=20 >> I try to make Guix our default package manager. It's really wonderful >> so far. To that end, I need TLDRs so that less experienced >> developpers can get going /fast/. Deeper understanding will come in >> time. >>=20 >> I also need to convince that Guix is /easy/ to third parties. I need >> to /show/ that /installing/, /configuring/ and /using/ Guix is fast >> and efficient. I found out that TLDRs are great tools for that. >>=20 >> I need to have small TLDRs so that when things go wrong, it's easy to >> know where and fix either the TLDR or the manual steps. Also, >> sometimes, things go wrong and are not documented. /E.g./ setting >> ~LC_ALL=3DC.UTF-8~ will make Guix complain even after installing ~guix >> install glibc-utf8-locales~. I can factor this knowledge inside these >> TLDR fast. >=20 > No argument here, I very much understand why as a user or potential > contributor one would want to-the-point documentation as a first step. >=20 > I also want to be able to understand what I=E2=80=99m doing though=E2=80=94= maybe not at > first, but soon enough. That=E2=80=99s why I don=E2=80=99t feel comfortab= le giving a > raw list of commands without explanations. Agreed. >=20 > But maybe we can have both, with cross references. Yes! It=E2=80=99s implicit in our workflow, the documentation _is_ the refer= ence. >=20 > Thoughts? Yes. I can add cross references in the patch and in the so called transient.= blog >=20 > Ludo=E2=80=99.