From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id SM6IBrBfx19IQwAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 02 Dec 2020 09:34:40 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id EGRSArBfx1/VewAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 02 Dec 2020 09:34:40 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56D85940148 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 2020 09:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:58398 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kkOX0-0007a3-4C for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2020 04:34:38 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45558) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kkNWC-00023B-Kn for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2020 03:29:44 -0500 Received: from mail1.g12.pair.com ([66.39.4.99]:17248) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kkNWA-0001lR-Kr for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2020 03:29:44 -0500 Received: from mail1.g12.pair.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.g12.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A237D7308E; Wed, 2 Dec 2020 03:29:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.1.78.173] (pw126166005058.31.panda-world.ne.jp [126.166.5.58]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail1.g12.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6154E73086; Wed, 2 Dec 2020 03:29:39 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-F36632C9-FECE-467A-BAC3-94CAD845A009 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Yasuaki Kudo Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Welcome to Grub!... for a minute Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 17:29:36 +0900 Message-Id: References: <87lfenq6su.fsf@nckx> In-Reply-To: <87lfenq6su.fsf@nckx> To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (18B92) Received-SPF: none client-ip=66.39.4.99; envelope-from=yasu@yasuaki.com; helo=mail1.g12.pair.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.28 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 56D85940148 X-Spam-Score: -0.28 X-Migadu-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu X-TUID: Vz4GgAf+vyQM --Apple-Mail-F36632C9-FECE-467A-BAC3-94CAD845A009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everyone, Thank for responding - I was just experimenting with repeated guix pull and = build commands (because the "proprietary" packages in those separate channe= ls take ages to compile) In retrospect, this lead me to realize that instead of guix system reconfigu= re, I could just do guix system build, for my purpose. So mine is probably an "edge case" but wanted to report anyway =F0=9F=98=84 Cheers, Yasu > On Nov 27, 2020, at 22:16, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFHi! >=20 > [CC'ing only guix-devel@.] >=20 > Yasuaki Kudo =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A >> I just wanted to report (although this is probably already known) that I h= ad to wait for a long time (probably more than a minute) staring at "Welcome= to Grub!" screen upon reboot, after accumulating thousands of guix system g= enerations. I was experimenting with something and I suspected that was the= cause - sure enough, after deleting them all with guix system delete-genera= tions command, the delay disappeared. >>=20 >> Just reporting =F0=9F=98=84 >=20 > And thank you for it! If this is where Guix ends up when left unattended,= it should be fixed. >=20 > Easy to do by making the =E2=80=98old generations=E2=80=99 submenu a separ= ate file that's loaded =E2=80=98on demand=E2=80=99. Actually doing so would= still take as long, so the next logical step is to split it further into ch= unks. How, I guess, depends on how people actually use & browse thousands of= generations. Do you? >=20 > Kind regards, >=20 > T G-R --Apple-Mail-F36632C9-FECE-467A-BAC3-94CAD845A009 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Everyone,

Thank for responding - I was just experi= menting with repeated guix pull and  build commands (because the= "proprietary" packages in those separate channels take ages to compile)

In retrospect, this lead me to= realize that instead of guix system reconfigure, I could just do = guix system build, for my purpose.

So mine is probably an "edge case" but wanted to report anyway =F0= =9F=98=84

Cheers,
Yasu

On Nov= 27, 2020, at 22:16, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr> wrote:
=EF=BB=BFHi!

[CC'ing only guix-devel@.]
Yasuaki Kudo =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A
<= blockquote type=3D"cite">I just wanted to report (although this is pro= bably already known) that I had to wait for a long time (probably more than a= minute) staring at "Welcome to Grub!" screen upon reboot, after accumulatin= g thousands of guix system generations.  I was experimenting with somet= hing and I suspected that was the cause - sure enough, after deleting them a= ll with guix system delete-generations command, the delay disappeared.

Just reporting =F0=9F=98=84

And thank you for it!  If this is where Gui= x ends up when left unattended, it should be fixed.
<= br>Easy to do by making the =E2=80=98old generations=E2=80=99 submenu a= separate file that's loaded =E2=80=98on demand=E2=80=99.  Actually doi= ng so would still take as long, so the next logical step is to split it furt= her into chunks. How, I guess, depends on how people actually use & brow= se thousands of generations.  Do you?

= Kind regards,

T G-R
= --Apple-Mail-F36632C9-FECE-467A-BAC3-94CAD845A009--