From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: P Subject: Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 17:37:28 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87ftk4hbhu.fsf@gnu.org> <8eaaa9a2-a5ff-b64a-48bf-954150fecc63@gmail.com> <20191012130631.GJ15371@protected.rcdrun.com> <20191012133829.hep5xrh6blzpldxo@pelzflorian.localdomain> <004bdc31-c191-0459-509c-dcffbda327ab@frantovo.cz> <20191012172207.GV15371@protected.rcdrun.com> Reply-To: P Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38322) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iJLKl-000123-Gm for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 13:37:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iJLKk-0001jc-3T for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 13:37:39 -0400 Received: from mail-40136.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.136]:34221) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iJLKj-0001hO-Gh for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 13:37:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20191012172207.GV15371@protected.rcdrun.com> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Jean Louis Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Franti=C5=A1ek_Ku=C4=8Dera?= , "guix-devel@gnu.org" On Saturday, October 12, 2019 5:22 PM, Jean Louis wrote: > - Franti=C5=A1ek Ku=C4=8Dera konference@frantovo.cz [2019-10-12 19:13]: > > > Dne 12. 10. 19 v 15:38 pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) napsal(a): > > > > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 03:06:31PM +0200, Jean Louis wrote: > > > > > > > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s and Andy Wingo and other people who are introd= ucing > > > > their pro-feminist political views into the apolitical GNU project > > > > are mixing the independent GNU project with their feminist stances. > > > > > > GNU projects should be feminist > > > > It is not clear whether current troubles are linked to feminism or othe= r > > *ism or just interests of some corporations. But what is clear is that > > different people have naturally and constantly different opinions on > > various *isms. And the point is that mixing *isms into the free softwar= e > > development, will cause community breakdown. We would be spending time > > with pointless quarrels (as you can see right now) instead of developin= g > > useful free software for everybody (freedom 0). > > It is dividing the community. > > Jean If "women should be welcome in tech" is a step too far for you, then you ar= e too whiny to be useful in tech. And technology is ALWAYS political. If you think otherwise, you are naive t= o an almost childish level. Funny how politics in tech are not a problem to you people when it's politi= cs you already agree with. But now you have to make a tiny sacrifice, impro= ve just a teensy bit as a human being, and suddenly you're scared. And if the divide is between "people who want free software to be inclusive= " and "people who don't want their leaders to be held responsible" then I w= elcome that divide.