From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id yBPYCuleR2CVBQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2021 11:41:29 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id OFKrBuleR2CZTQAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2021 11:41:29 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 261082BF27 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2021 12:41:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:54342 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lJajv-0007Wd-BW for larch@yhetil.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2021 06:41:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41136) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lJajm-0007WO-0E for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2021 06:41:18 -0500 Received: from lepiller.eu ([89.234.186.109]:48208) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lJajh-0005ib-3d for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2021 06:41:17 -0500 Received: from lepiller.eu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lepiller.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 80c43465 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2021 11:41:08 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=lepiller.eu; h=date :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:subject:to:from:message-id; s=dkim; bh=6C9sx8Q23NtcmIvHGvYW80ZwgKbSDMwWwgDyca45RxE=; b=isXnOzstExGw MsGLKFdvu8E569QP6WE1qcPNpF5Hc/OU/B4OPo2ETl6UZm1hQWxzBMXnJR4jmzTw nqzrKHm2XVU4Vb4yZA3FrgzsAx/xkWBqL4EmYit+JK+vOEJW3ORoNgV/WDK5uweM 8wV1UgaXqny0buo1kIXaJzPBrG6tOoZ9hUmwoifUMIR+Mu+8qU8Jk1SCtVW5a30s z8PcAjfa4iWFfWdp8bqEEtA0jGFy+gTMW8a/uNFWPm4hPrFUPBIxOhowCaPU63oh RV6w2VW/3r7hvle5bTuFzLHvvlQQBmJLNHuydb+KxBJYxFG+VPb4HTaHvXZTsj5d W9aCCi3rBQ== Received: by lepiller.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 9d76d472 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO) for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2021 11:41:07 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2021 06:40:48 -0500 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <87pn08muar.fsf@nckx> References: <7ae1c8ee-30fc-6639-5539-621c65e7fc26@raghavgururajan.name> <87h7lkj3pt.fsf@netris.org> <2d477594f968f088d61e51a177e78bd2@dismail.de> <9f7ad8ce-7275-0e06-1767-eef1fb0f11cb@raghavgururajan.name> <87pn08muar.fsf@nckx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----0DTL8PUPA4VPT2TFCVDORUH0TYVH2P" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Opposition to new single-letter package name "t" To: guix-devel@gnu.org From: Julien Lepiller Message-ID: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=89.234.186.109; envelope-from=julien@lepiller.eu; helo=lepiller.eu X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1615290088; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=HqCm/X4i1v22KwOakYdb6D3jLpt8+yV8XosWOm2+gNk=; b=Cs1It21x1VTKHUdW/BLf/1X7aAlsxE4ssLH0nSiAhaX2+TMiN0+MwLlyq3ntPMlKcUF9/S UHwxGpk8ZcMf8c+rUi7BN+N/Oj7/I3gXi6DH69b8rEpn9dfvcCjria2/TVloYTsRhlkyOI QesmgUECSbW7Tu6ovbcZOLYD6xljyUkk8jtFH0nbsha8cS6HTRfL+PJ3jmspSO8ReCDEeI lcn432kJyS8S/ydt39tlJ8auMqhCURVrPuBJ2DGdXNd0XlRrCM4p8dJuTjejY4bqbnkveg F5oXUDEiNz4eG6TCO+ZEBOF8BYmCP4vnzjFyFURG+u9evUtKkZBs5UzGRToLwA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1615290088; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=kGBG574bu8DJ4wsyU4Iv+ysEwi8AsIOsoNMGPn16A+Bgo/k/1IyHjjvI4f2af6wC6j9aYr 3bC3rPwBjQo3DqfCI3FsSy1nQvXzAF1Y+mFmnRZqXUYrWo9oESM9LnATliX3Ka0ClSVC2n 0ghy3f3wdUu/b4RDjqrLDfmg0iF3Wu8k4+0gOZkLAW9SCsKa7SmYPWyk4Jmys0jNkhR/OH GMWVNyNsqcMhY1NPQIJ7/5HMyQETca3fvhL6/pW8VoHFLkF/a0sgJvXIhTSRcyDhUZLUFg 8jPTkzMvzWegez3PXialosau9gaL2zIBkVYkYTjTQugWfryPvoNzYq0fHMatwQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=lepiller.eu header.s=dkim header.b=isXnOzst; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.08 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=lepiller.eu header.s=dkim header.b=isXnOzst; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=lepiller.eu; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 261082BF27 X-Spam-Score: -3.08 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: W/f+vzHlzAWn ------0DTL8PUPA4VPT2TFCVDORUH0TYVH2P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, python-t should be unique, right? There can't be a collision on pypi= =2E Well, except if that package is not on pypi? Le 9 mars 2021 06:38:04 GMT-05:00, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice = a =C3=A9crit : >Raghav Gururajan =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A >> Since, we already mention "todo list manager" in description, I=20 >> think=20 >> "ti-cli" is better=2E > >It says nothing about the package and does not uniquely identify=20 >it: > > bundlerApp { > pname =3D "t"; > [=2E=2E=2E] > > meta =3D with lib; { > description =3D "A command-line power tool for Twitter"; > homepage =3D "http://sferik=2Egithub=2Eio/t/"; > [=2E=2E=2E] > }; > } > >It's =E2=80=9Ct=E2=80=9D! It's =E2=80=9CCLI=E2=80=9D! It's=2E=2E=2E a t= otally different package[0]! > >Please: t-todo-manager (t-todo-whatever, I don't care) or=20 >$something_a_mainstream_distro_uses, but not yet another=20 >bikeshedded unique name, fun as they are to do=2E > >Kind regards, > >T G-R > >[0]:=20 >https://github=2Ecom/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/release-20=2E09/pkgs/tools/misc/t= /default=2Enix ------0DTL8PUPA4VPT2TFCVDORUH0TYVH2P Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, python-t should be unique, right? There can'= t be a collision on pypi=2E Well, except if that package is not on pypi?
Le 9 mars 2021 06:38:04 GMT-05:00, Tobias G= eerinckx-Rice <me@tobias=2Egr> a =C3=A9crit :
Raghav Gururajan =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A
Since, we already mention "tod=
o list manager" in description, I 
think 
"ti-cli" is better=2E

It says nothing about the package and does not uniquely iden=
tify 
it:

  bundlerApp {
    pname =3D "t";
    [=2E=2E=2E]=


    meta =3D with lib; {
      description =3D "A command-line p=
ower tool for Twitter";
      homepage    =3D "http://sferik=2Egithub=2E=
io/t/";
      [=2E=2E=2E]
    };
  }

It's =E2=80=9Ct=E2=80=
=9D!  It's =E2=80=9CCLI=E2=80=9D!  It's=2E=2E=2E a totally different packag=
e[0]!

Please: t-todo-manager (t-todo-whatever, I don't care) or 
=
$something_a_mainstream_distro_uses, but not yet another 
bikeshedded un=
ique name, fun as they are to do=2E

Kind regards,

T G-R
[0]: 
https://github=2Ecom/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob=
/release-20=2E09/pkgs/tools/misc/t/default=2Enix
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