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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1659417714; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=bh733Yv04Mg3A6Id9Z/tY8KnnQCfNFXmPZfSntS8Pis=; b=K69jLt3eIj8qz0JQzIQUfcEyskPBi2nAXFXvKoi4GPJOmOByH722P81Cjl6up5nSRmEruS zA+NG09ImojYTAJciSwjbIXKfXIoxiJ7fJOQbnFzkcl3lfdokuqXS+KXm1MDIjGXJNuhAd oCD8ymN0HZZx5zupLC+OqPUOCtZD+4WD8Ifh+g6JcRpDu+oSy+J4C0vCaRIr4d0LEzf7Tp XDQnQj6fComxVb9whct4/0Q1nfhZXX7ciSEJ00hDbbe0RSbQLu7IaTyKsFV/aQCPWocu4R kG2deqAHQuWhkpSUssHeVfi4xj4eJ/MByWxs/kGcKNfUpBZQom2ZNj5c+G8izw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1659417714; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=mXM1+UNM2smf/OKLHiYw1aAOjrlbyBxn9rPyMPSFC04gUrEwU2KiNWcvMyzH8f4DyuLL// sOmxMd7+x7DeLUN122jJxbYDxCSYKBQrKZW+qSbWp9SRVHh0I6gPUwtZCygMnooKwatuHp NwGhCsHr8zPY7qEdXmWM13E8I6rO5yVtbuR/CqleO5lU9PdO4pxl0hz0iqCTEowhz0oQuT RHQUgEZVyiB4pvBiTAF1rGdDGTliqlvCMRa4g+ICUVuVrKH+Q5w5y3Pjckjw2qlw9hS8dj hZmV2HB2UofSsIPYiOuWcSzmTQeFQAfhLaU9QAUbXxLS7viu4eHae7HFluOFmQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=disroot.org header.s=mail header.b=gE27B2S4; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=disroot.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.92 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=disroot.org header.s=mail header.b=gE27B2S4; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=disroot.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 25EF0741A X-Spam-Score: -2.92 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: tqy7Vlq1tVVt On Mon Aug 1, 2022 at 10:43 PM +0200, M=C3=A1ja Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1ek wrote: > More realistic (imo) is that zig should be encouraged to build > dynamically linked packages, not static ones, and allow the ability > (with their future package manager) for the distribution to distribute > it's libraries C-style. Technically this is not always possible since Zig relies on compile-time execution for generic. > If there's a newer version required, it should > be up to the distribution mantainers to fix that. Zig source files could be handled in the same manner as C headers however, and be used as native inputs, so downstream can still update a library for all dependees at once.