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Roesch" Date: Thu, 25 May 2023 11:08:58 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Hackatathon: 27th June! Let redo ReScience C. 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As an editor for resci, I of course welcome .scm files and scripts, as examples that could be provided to future submissions. I would particularly looove a bullet-proof .scm config for the editorial process, which... is somewhat documented but has gaps: I have been working on this for one of the submissions I am handling at the moment; at the moment, I have mostly made sure to use guix for running the code submitted (python notebooks), which I'll push to the author's repo, and have not *yet* moved to the editorial process. The above task I have started as editor overlaps completely with the theme of the hackathon, I suppose ;) Happy to do just that and finally tick it off my todo list. I am sure Nicolas will be pleased. That may also create that opportunity to learn that I had in mind in my previous email. Also happy to serve as a guinea pig and help create onboarding procedures. :) Have an amazing week everyone! Etienne On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 2:31=E2=80=AFPM Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > Hi Etienne, > > "Etienne B. Roesch" skribis: > > > I am in. I have used both nix and guix, but I do consider myself a > > beginner. I am also a plain old researcher in neuroscience, albeit with > > formal training in software engineering. As such I think I would find i= t > > more valuable to spend time figuring out the best way to describe "a be= st > > practice" for people like me, onboarding newcomers, and write > > documentation, rather than figuring out why a Makefile doesn't compile > and > > computer says no. I am also happy to join more experienced users, of > > course, and follow the flow. > > I guess the goal is to make progress on providing Guix files that would > let us re-run code submitted in ReScience C papers (for instance). In > doing that, old-timers like me can of course provide guidance to onboard > newcomers: this exercise is meaningful if we make it approachable to a > wider scientific audience. > > We seasoned users (Simon, Konrad, myself, and anyone who feels > qualified) should prepare upfront to get a more precise idea of the > tasks involved and how we can onboard people. > > > I have timeblocked the whole, and I am relatively free of my own > movement, > > but I can't promise I wouldn't be dragged into some boring meetings. I > live > > in the UK (+1h), and speak English and French. :D > > Awesome. :-) > > BTW, the event will be in English but we can definitely onboard those > who might prefer to speak French or German. > > Ludo=E2=80=99. > --000000000000bc88ff05fc81cfcc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi!

As an editor for resci, I of course= welcome .scm files and scripts, as examples that could be provided to futu= re submissions. I would particularly looove=C2=A0a bullet-proof .scm config= for the editorial process, which... is somewhat documented but has gaps: I= have been working on this for one of the submissions I am handling at the = moment; at the moment, I have mostly made sure to use guix for running the = code submitted (python notebooks), which I'll push to the author's = repo, and have not *yet* moved to the editorial process.

The above task I have started as editor overlaps completely with the= =C2=A0theme of the hackathon, I suppose ;) Happy to do just that and finall= y tick it off my todo list. I am sure Nicolas will be pleased.
Th= at may also create that opportunity to learn that I had in mind in my previ= ous email.

Also happy to serve as a guinea pig and= help create onboarding procedures. :)

Have an ama= zing week everyone!

Etienne

On Wed, May 24, 2= 023 at 2:31=E2=80=AFPM Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludovic.courtes@inria.fr> wrote:
Hi Etienne,

"Etienne B. Roesch" <etienne.roesch@gmail.com> skribis:

> I am in. I have used both nix and guix, but I do consider myself a
> beginner. I am also a plain old researcher in neuroscience, albeit wit= h
> formal training in software engineering. As such I think I would find = it
> more valuable to spend time figuring out the best way to describe &quo= t;a best
> practice" for people like me, onboarding newcomers, and write
> documentation, rather than figuring out why a Makefile doesn't com= pile and
> computer says no. I am also happy to join more experienced users, of > course, and follow the flow.

I guess the goal is to make progress on providing Guix files that would
let us re-run code submitted in ReScience C papers (for instance).=C2=A0 In=
doing that, old-timers like me can of course provide guidance to onboard newcomers: this exercise is meaningful if we make it approachable to a
wider scientific audience.

We seasoned users (Simon, Konrad, myself, and anyone who feels
qualified) should prepare upfront to get a more precise idea of the
tasks involved and how we can onboard people.

> I have timeblocked the whole, and I am relatively free of my own movem= ent,
> but I can't promise I wouldn't be dragged into some boring mee= tings. I live
> in the UK (+1h), and speak English and French. :D

Awesome.=C2=A0 :-)

BTW, the event will be in English but we can definitely onboard those
who might prefer to speak French or German.

Ludo=E2=80=99.
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