From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Laura Lazzati Subject: Re: [outreachy] Further steps Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 16:36:42 -0300 Message-ID: References: <20181024071635.29543fcf@alma-ubu> <875zxp56un.fsf@elephly.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34145) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gG7v8-0007FO-Ve for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 15:37:24 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gG7v7-00052C-BC for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 15:37:22 -0400 Received: from mail-pg1-x532.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::532]:40513) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gG7v6-00051P-8m for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 15:37:20 -0400 Received: by mail-pg1-x532.google.com with SMTP id o14-v6so991589pgv.7 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 12:37:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: =?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=A1bor_Boskovits?= Cc: Guix-devel , Ricardo Wurmus On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 4:06 PM G=C3=A1bor Boskovits = wrote: > > Hello Laura, > > Laura Lazzati ezt =C3=ADrta (id=C5=91pont: 2= 018. > okt. 26., P, 20:47): > > > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 2:22 PM G=C3=A1bor Boskovits wrote: > > > > > > Hello Laura, > > > > > > Laura Lazzati ezt =C3=ADrta (id=C5=91pon= t: 2018. > > > okt. 26., P, 17:01): > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 7:40 AM Ricardo Wurmus = wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Laura, > > > > > > > > > > > I fill kind of silly, but I am afraid of clicking "Apply for th= is > > > > > > project" and be sending just one contribution and that's it. > > > > > > > > > > Don=E2=80=99t worry about that. The number of contributions is n= ot the primary > > > > > metric we use to select an intern. Communication weighs a lot, a= nd the > > > > > proposed timeline is pretty important to us, too. The timeline w= on=E2=80=99t > > > > > necessarily be followed during the project (as it=E2=80=99s reall= y hard to > > > > > predict exact durations), but it is good to spend some time on th= inking > > > > > about how this big project can be broken up into much smaller, si= mpler > > > > > tasks. To us it is important to see that this kind of careful th= inking > > > > > reflected in the proposed timeline. > > > > > > Also, you can still record contributions after the application, but a= s Ricardo > > > said, the number of contributions is not the primary metric. > > I thought that they were really important, so that was why I was > > thinking about doing more contributions up to November. I still would > > like to be a contributor even the outcome of Outreachy, as I > > mentioned, but if I can apply to Outreachy the better. > > > > > > > Sorry for the typos. It was feel. > > > > I have just clicked the button, to see the form, and yes, the timel= ine > > > > is the most difficult part of it. > > > > I have been reading your discussion in another thread of mails, so = I > > > > am a little mixed up with that. > > > > (I guess it is your discussion, but it confused me a little at leas= t > > > > about how to go on). > > > > > > Please, don't get confused. That one is an open discussion, feel free= to join. > > > We would like to have a clearer picture about the community expectati= ons > > > regarding the project, set up some priorities, and plan some infrastr= ucture for > > > the work. I would like you to get involved, so that you can also expr= ess your > > > opinion and expectations, as the outcome of the discussion will influ= ence your > > > work if you are chosen. ( It is very undesirable that you work on som= ething that > > > you don't like, it kills morale fast. ) > > > > Oh, thanks :) I was not mentioning anything there because I did not > > want to become an intruder or something like that. > > But I have some suggestions. Maybe I could mention them there. As a > > user who watches tutorials and as a person who at least suggested > > doing video tutorials, even though in that case my proposals were > > going probably to end up in YouTube or something like that. > > You can have a look at the proposed distribution locations at the other > discussion. > > > > > > > > Shall we discuss together how to set the timeline? > > > > > > Yes, that would be nice. > > > > > > > Shall I propose it? > > > > > > I would like you to come up with an initial proposal, and then iterat= e on that. > > Ok, I have the initial Outreachy project next to me. I will take a > > look at everything there, and write down a proposal, during the > > following days, WDYT? > > Ok, that would be great. I have one last question: do I need to follow a specific format? ie: a template or just writing down in plain text: >From date/week number up to date/week number: and a TODO list of tasks? > > > > > > > > Do I need to know the editing tools before starting the internship = if > > > > I am chosen? > > > > > > I don't think that is necessary, and at the current state of discussi= on I would > > > not like to force any tools. Actually I am open to proposals regardin= g the > > > concrete implementation ideas, and the set of tools to use. > > I was asking this because I see the community is concerned about the > > freedom, so maybe I come up with a tool and it is not GPL, maybe it > > has another license and I don't check that very well, and I do not > > want to have kind of trouble, but I could add in the timeline time to > > learn tools that I do not know. I use FOSS in general, so that I do > > not make a mistake with a tool. > > For instance, i knew some LaTeX instead of Texinfo, so I was reading ab= out it. > > Actually free software is not necessarily GPL. You can have a look at > the list of > FSF approved licenses at https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.htm= l. > Note that there are GPL incompatible free software licences, but > software lincensed > by these is still free software. (For example LaTeX is free software) > As you can see > software freedom and licensing is a quite sophisticated issue in > general. You can > generally trust that software packaged by guix is free. > ( We are trying hard to make it so, at least :-) ). If you would like > to use software that > is currently not packaged, we can have a look at the proposed tools to > see if they are free. Yes, I was reading about them before :) It is not a problem for me at all. I have to learn them whatever the case is, so that was why I was asking, if they are packaged in guix, then I will use them (or if not, another contribution: packaging the tools to do the project) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Ricardo > > > > > > > > > Regards! > > > > Laura > > > > > > Best regards, > > > g_bor > > > > Regards! > > Laura > > Best regards, > g_bor Regards!