From: Omar Radwan <toxemicsquire4@gmail.com>
To: "Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro" <oitofelix@gnu.org>, guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [ART] Background image for GRUB
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 07:21:54 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMwaQAJKgXo=7M2N6oNB6dOOPiCvStEbfKtr0nWOtd0VR+LKdQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <545A2FAF.3030103@gnu.org>
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>I wonder if RMS has a good argument to justify his insistence in the
>truthfulness of the equation 'GNU = GNU/Hurd' beyond the well-known
>historical and technical ones.
I see where you get that idea from. Linux-libre is just a deblobbed fork of
the Linux kernel and the project which manages Linux-libre is a GNU
project,
But it's not the real GNU kernel, so it would still have to be called
GNU/Linux-libre, or GNU/Linux. And with Linux-libre, and almost all forked
projects that I have ever seen(MATE, Trinity, illumos, openIndiana, and the
*BSD's to some extent), there is usually too much code for the project to
handle, and it becomes a mess. The Linux kernel is approximately ~10
million lines of code, with a huge team, very hard to just fork it and make
it your own. While the HURD is much smaller(with Mach I think I've read
somewhere that it's about 200,000 lines of code) codebase wise. And it is
written in GNU C style and doesn't have many small "hack" or shortcuts
taken by the Linux kernel to achieve very fast speeds.
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 6:09 AM, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro <
oitofelix@gnu.org> wrote:
> ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) wrote:
>
> > Agreed. But note that RMS asked me to not insist on calling the OS
> > “the GNU system”, at least for now (AIUI, his main concern is that
> > GNU = GNU/Hurd, which is not currently supported.)
>
> I wonder if RMS has a good argument to justify his insistence in the
> truthfulness of the equation 'GNU = GNU/Hurd' beyond the well-known
> historical and technical ones.
>
> From a strategical perspective, I fail to see why the distinction
> between GNU/Linux-libre and GNU/Hurd could be of any relevance. IMHO,
> calling both simply "GNU" would help in the promotion of the GNU
> project and its ideals. That would not cause confusion, because GNU
> would be defined as an operating system of multiple kernels, and
> technical-inclined people would always know how to tell the difference
> when needed or appropriate.
>
> --
> ,= ,-_-. =. Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro (oitofelix) [0x28D618AF]
> ((_/)o o(\_)) There is no system but GNU;
> `-'(. .)`-' GNU Linux-Libre is one of its official kernels;
> \_/ All software must be free as in freedom;
>
>
>
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Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-04 21:55 [ART] Background image for GRUB Felipe López
2014-11-04 22:15 ` Eric Bavier
2014-11-04 22:25 ` Andreas Enge
2014-11-04 23:20 ` Felipe López
2014-11-04 23:17 ` Andreas Enge
2014-11-04 23:40 ` Felipe López
2014-11-04 23:10 ` Felipe López
2014-11-04 22:22 ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2014-11-04 23:27 ` Felipe López
2014-11-05 13:26 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-05 14:09 ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2014-11-05 15:21 ` Omar Radwan [this message]
2014-11-05 16:33 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2014-11-05 18:42 ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2014-11-05 19:50 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2014-11-05 15:28 ` Felipe López
2014-11-05 20:16 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-05 21:28 ` Felipe López
2014-11-05 21:39 ` Andreas Enge
2014-11-05 22:19 ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2014-11-06 9:42 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-06 19:16 ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2014-11-05 23:06 ` Andreas Enge
2014-11-05 23:49 ` Felipe López
2014-11-05 23:49 ` Felipe López
2014-11-06 2:18 ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2014-11-06 9:52 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-06 20:08 ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2014-11-06 22:29 ` Felipe López
2014-11-05 23:38 ` Felipe López
2014-11-06 17:05 ` Andreas Enge
2014-11-05 22:04 ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2014-11-06 9:16 ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2014-11-06 11:40 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-06 14:13 ` Felipe López
2014-11-06 9:58 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-06 16:09 ` Felipe López
2014-11-06 17:12 ` Andreas Enge
2014-11-06 17:13 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-06 19:22 ` Felipe López
2014-11-08 14:22 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-08 18:58 ` Felipe López
2014-11-08 22:04 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-12 12:28 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-12 14:43 ` Felipe López
2014-11-12 15:58 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-05 15:32 ` Felipe López
2014-11-05 13:55 ` Andreas Enge
2014-11-05 14:31 ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2014-11-05 14:57 ` Andreas Enge
2014-11-05 18:02 ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2014-11-05 15:36 ` Thompson, David
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