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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1640031235; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=DCFI94nNDnzI1c77QhtP/f/+WKUkTLIYKTY+GdCceiY=; b=Sr/sPtPml8Tja98oJs5N2D3olVfpiwi/Vz1xHwTvn1rU2eH7HjHA0gP6JhUDaJLQFIlpql NKIYE+C7KbpjAOaHBo2r7ezMNJv+PqZqK8sI8chV4WeuYW8Xcop818kbNohuJzzm4sAK4T ybFG4sjPfG+YQ0vovngiahEUQUynfgafubLW4iZ3BYKMRNtLBrfoD6tT5D+SK4y5Ccw/Qm 2SCmrXRsBd7TEfQJVDvx/8K4O7tt7PjakErSVZQ7U3wDhg2vNB9Ws1WWocA9eEtgK4EqXh PZ9lG1koGe8M6SfKXUtedYMJp2wsjv12ZYHJ7NcBBRO24ppSLMmuZ9MkCGR3tA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1640031235; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=cg3vs1+CzqRxOYfSglWCqg2u9lJdPdwRmW3BA7Mo0HEpHh3IeQb7UyZFJmJ9YR0eV2XqTi +gGC0xQBAUP05ZQlvSgNBAq9iM22X9Sx4j6Ptj5/83Id6iPYgweV/OZWz+UeDKOVzqXYsr Skz6MkSYBl5awNzUSo5EL8sKBU11EdogVYxTWYzoXJj14H0y450MTt2SXOkosb/uv7JdKo e8u+i/lNGv7pgMHVnphLQAlwUlAiYrKqi4HuIwH5P6CLf2FizD/tMjb7Uo42+9gWWZL8rY 4Bd9Uon4rnYtt+Hs/fubYwrMBI5oyiBnv8pJAz+jVhtmUehA8ZEtVQoL5DRhIA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=atai-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.s=20210112 header.b=pWYWCEY7; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.52 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=atai-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.s=20210112 header.b=pWYWCEY7; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D806216ABB X-Spam-Score: -3.52 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 7UIUSY5Pq1XC Hi, I was trying to update mono to the current release version. The build step as documented actually says to download a minimal C# compiler from the mono site which is then used to compile the rest of the source to build the full system. I looked and did not find the source of this minimal compiler--so it is a black box in a way. In free software it is ideal to build everything from source. I wonder how is such a package handled in Guix? What is the strategy for bootstrapping? Thanks (msg sent to help-guix first but this list may be more appropriate)