From: Mike Mohr <akihana@gmail.com>
To: "Torbjörn Granlund" <tg@gmplib.org>
Cc: Guix-devel <Guix-devel@gnu.org>, gmp-discuss@gmplib.org
Subject: Re: On being welcoming
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 09:21:23 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJe-LUiXO8NxWjXDyfFWNLCPRtvBNkKu7TNvjqBSNX52X_BgwQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86bn9nmvco.fsf@shell.gmplib.org>
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On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Torbjörn Granlund <tg@gmplib.org> wrote:
> [To gmp-discuss readers: This started at gmp-bugs, first as a couple of
> reports about assumed GMP bugs, then with the subject used here.]
>
> ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
>
> I think it is crucially important that you as a community recognize that
> this behavior is not acceptable. There’s nothing personal in doing
> that; it’s the behavior that we should condemn, not the person.
>
> Let's not exaggerate; sending sloppy bug reports might be considered as
> disrespectful, but I wouldn't go so far as calling "this behavior"
> "unacceptable". We're making a mistake if we assume malice when we read
> something we do not like.
>
To an outsider, who is perhaps unfamiliar with common software development
practices, sloppy bug reports are easy mistakes to make. I doubt that the
reporter had any ill intent.
>
> Mike Mohr <akihana@gmail.com> writes:
>
> I have seen many examples of this type of conduct from him, both
> towards myself as well as others. I am a software engineer who
> works in Silicon Valley, and I cannot imagine working with someone
> who is frequently abrasive and disparaging. Such an individual
> would not last very long on my team.
>
> We're all humans and I shall not exaggerate my critisism of sloppy bug
> reports, and I shall not sink to making an ad hominem response.
>
> [I'm going back to doing productive work now. I will not respond further
> to this thread, but I respect that others might want to continue, and I
> will read the contributions. Please use gmp-discuss, the gmp-bugs list
> is for bug reports.]
>
Torbjörn, I sincerely apologize if my initial response was interpreted as
an ad hominem attack. It was certainly not intended as such. I actually
spent a good amount of time weighing whether I should respond at all,
followed by writing and rewriting several parts of the response. The
initial paragraph, where I mention how valuable your contributions are to
the GMP project, is missing from your inline response. The second
paragraph seems harsher than I intended when read out of context.
Your response to the original bug report was accurate; there was
insufficient information in it. I am very aware of how frustrating
incomplete bug reports can be, especially when working on a project for
free in your spare time. My only intent was to share constructive
criticism regarding how you responded to the reporter.
>
> --
> Torbjörn
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-12-19 17:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-16 11:29 GMP 6.1.0 without assembly lacks ‘__gmpn_invert_lib’ on ARM Ludovic Courtès
2015-12-16 13:02 ` Torbjörn Granlund
2015-12-16 22:39 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-12-17 1:07 ` Torbjörn Granlund
2015-12-17 21:45 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2015-12-17 21:48 ` On being welcoming Ludovic Courtès
2015-12-18 4:25 ` Mike Mohr
2015-12-18 15:51 ` Niels Möller
2015-12-18 19:04 ` Torbjörn Granlund
2015-12-19 17:21 ` Mike Mohr [this message]
[not found] ` <nn1tajiwlk.fsf@armitage.lysator.liu.se>
2015-12-18 19:09 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2015-12-18 10:01 ` Niels Möller
[not found] ` <nnlh8shy7c.fsf@armitage.lysator.liu.se>
2015-12-18 14:45 ` Ludovic Courtès
[not found] ` <87mvt7lsrm.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-12-18 15:29 ` Niels Möller
2015-12-18 16:53 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2015-12-18 23:14 ` GMP 6.1.0 without assembly lacks ‘__gmpn_invert_lib’ on ARM Ludovic Courtès
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