From: "Thompson, David" <dthompson2@worcester.edu>
To: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de>
Cc: 50960@debbugs.gnu.org, "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Subject: [bug#50960] [EXT] Re: [bug#50960] [PATCH 00/10] Add 'guix shell' to subsume 'guix environment'
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 07:17:43 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ=Rwfb7fSEuWYxnnPE_miqGF5_O_d8qJdi3XdmwSQsFE=8jXA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211007105236.xzkq5tij3g3tcdob@pelzflorian.localdomain>
On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 6:52 AM pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
<pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de> wrote:
>
> I’m not a direnv user and frankly don’t really understand the gain
> from loading by default the guix.scm file nor manifest.scm.
>
> My fear is accidentally running code, possibly malicious, possibly
> just a backup script one happened to call guix.scm. In German we have
> the word DAU for “dumbest assumable user”. Guix without shell is
> DAU-prove.
I don't think your fear should outweigh the immense user friendliness
of having some established conventions to ease development. Every
mainstream developer tool I use in the professional word has
conventions like this, and the result is that it is quick and easy to
jump into a new project and get the software you need to be
productive. Guix needs to embrace this kind of usability if it hopes
to offer a real alternative to these other tools. 'guix shell' with
no other arguments should "just work" in the context of whatever
project I am in.
- Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-10-07 11:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-02 10:21 [bug#50960] [PATCH 00/10] Add 'guix shell' to subsume 'guix environment' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 01/10] packages: Add 'package-development-inputs' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 02/10] profiles: Add 'package->development-manifest' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 03/10] DRAFT Add 'guix shell' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 04/10] DRAFT shell: By default load the local 'guix.scm' or 'manifest.scm' file Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 11:52 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-10-02 13:43 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 00/10] Add 'guix shell' to subsume 'guix environment' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-05 7:50 ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-08 7:44 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 14:15 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 04/10] DRAFT shell: By default load the local 'guix.scm' or 'manifest.scm' file Maxime Devos
2021-10-04 8:07 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-05 7:51 ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-02 10:22 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 05/10] environment: Add tests for '--profile' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 06/10] environment: Skip derivation computation when '--profile' is used Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 11:39 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-10-02 13:46 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 00/10] Add 'guix shell' to subsume 'guix environment' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 07/10] environment: Do not connect to the daemon when '--profile' is used Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 08/10] environment: Autoload some modules Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 09/10] cache: Gracefully handle non-existent cache Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 13:28 ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-02 10:22 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 10/10] shell: Maintain a profile cache Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 13:43 ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-02 14:12 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 14:47 ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-04 8:19 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-04 14:20 ` zimoun
2021-10-04 15:58 ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-08 7:37 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 13:52 ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-02 14:14 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 14:22 ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-04 8:08 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:50 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 00/10] Add 'guix shell' to subsume 'guix environment' Jelle Licht
2021-10-02 13:52 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 12:10 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-02 13:40 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 15:08 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-04 8:22 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-04 9:23 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-04 16:50 ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-02 13:03 ` Christine Lemmer-Webber
2021-10-02 14:00 ` [bug#50960] ‘guix shell’ shebangs Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-03 22:50 ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2021-10-02 23:57 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 00/10] Add 'guix shell' to subsume 'guix environment' Vagrant Cascadian
2021-10-03 8:36 ` Nicolò Balzarotti
2021-10-04 8:34 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-04 17:12 ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-04 6:56 ` zimoun
2021-10-04 8:39 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-04 10:40 ` zimoun
2021-10-04 12:23 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-04 13:42 ` zimoun
2021-10-04 17:38 ` Leo Famulari
2021-10-08 7:43 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-08 16:16 ` Leo Famulari
2021-10-09 13:38 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 0:29 ` Leo Famulari
2021-10-04 21:29 ` [bug#50960] [EXT] " Thompson, David
2021-10-07 9:26 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-07 10:52 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-07 11:17 ` Thompson, David [this message]
2021-10-07 12:01 ` [bug#50960] [EXT] " pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-08 14:24 ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2021-10-11 9:13 ` zimoun
2021-10-06 8:12 ` Konrad Hinsen
2021-10-07 8:34 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-07 9:15 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-10-08 15:45 ` Konrad Hinsen
2021-10-09 7:45 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-10-11 8:32 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-09 8:07 ` Stefan
2021-10-11 21:37 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 00/11] 'guix shell' strikes again Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:37 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 01/11] packages: Add 'package-development-inputs' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-12 6:39 ` zimoun
2021-10-12 9:54 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-12 11:52 ` zimoun
2021-10-11 21:38 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 02/11] profiles: Add 'package->development-manifest' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-12 6:43 ` zimoun
2021-10-12 9:27 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 03/11] Add 'guix shell' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-13 16:51 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-11 21:38 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 04/11] DRAFT shell: By default load the local 'guix.scm' or 'manifest.scm' file Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 05/11] DRAFT shell: Honor in ~/.config/guix/shell-authorized-directories Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 06/11] environment: Add tests for '--profile' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 07/11] environment: Skip derivation computation when '--profile' is used Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 08/11] environment: Do not connect to the daemon " Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 09/11] environment: Autoload some modules Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 10/11] cache: Gracefully handle non-existent cache Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 11/11] shell: Maintain a profile cache Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-12 8:53 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 00/11] 'guix shell' strikes again pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-12 8:57 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-12 9:55 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 00/10] Adding 'guix shell': last call! Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 01/10] packages: Add 'package-development-inputs' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 02/10] profiles: Add 'package->development-manifest' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 03/10] Add 'guix shell' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 04/10] shell: By default load the local 'guix.scm' or 'manifest.scm' file Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 05/10] environment: Add tests for '--profile' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 06/10] environment: Skip derivation computation when '--profile' is used Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 07/10] environment: Do not connect to the daemon " Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 08/10] environment: Autoload some modules Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 09/10] cache: Gracefully handle non-existent cache Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 10/10] shell: Maintain a profile cache Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-19 8:43 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 00/10] Adding 'guix shell': last call! zimoun
2021-10-25 13:41 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 00/10] Add 'guix shell' to subsume 'guix environment' zimoun
2021-10-25 18:19 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-25 19:45 ` zimoun
2021-10-25 18:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
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