From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Catonano Subject: Re: Thunderbird Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 13:14:44 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20170718171336.nwr4vk6uxlxmj4iv@abyayala> <87inich4k3.fsf@openmailbox.org> <20170728173117.dresjucctkml6e7j@abyayala> <874lsfefn3.fsf@openmailbox.org> <20170911103103.usfwh4xakibjw7bt@abyayala> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403043e6bf4b288550558e808d5" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45984) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1drMfw-0003sA-GA for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 07:14:54 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1drMfu-0001oP-Q3 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 07:14:48 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]:45258) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1drMfu-0001o4-G8 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 07:14:46 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com with SMTP id f199so36947110wme.0 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 04:14:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20170911103103.usfwh4xakibjw7bt@abyayala> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: guix-devel , ng0 --f403043e6bf4b288550558e808d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2017-09-11 12:31 GMT+02:00 ng0 : > Arun Isaac transcribed 0.4K bytes: > > > > > I was wondering if anyone would work on Astroid mail > > > https://astroidmail.github.io/ > > > > > > It seems simpler to package than Thunderbird and it could be extremel= y > > > useful in the short/medium term > > > > Astroid requires external programs like mpop or offlineimap to fetch > > mail. So it cannot quite replace Thunderbird for the casual mail > > user. Perhaps, claws-mail or blasa are better alternatives. Both > > claws-mail and balsa are already packaged for Guix. > > My only usecase for Thunderbird is Enigmail and its coming GNUnet > integration > done in corporation of pEp (and GNUnet) and the Enigmail team. > ok > Personal opinion: Thunderbird is really terrible and I have my reasons > why I stopped using it so long ago I stopped counting or caring for its > existence (must've been around '99 or '00 maybe...). > right > Nevertheless it is a mandatory tool for some people who can't switch > easily and I doubt anyone will embrace the task of getting Thunderbird > into Guix with joy. > right So far I'm hitting the first dr=C3=B6mpels (road bumpers) in the build proc= ess > with a reference within Thunderbird. > > Wrt the earlier emails: yes, my intention (also for Icecat/Firefox) is to > provide Addons via Guix to get rid of yet another point of authority > (Mozilla Appstore). It is my understanding that at least a while back > someone was already looking into this and at least the idea was accepted > and welcomed. > it s an exciting view of the future, yes. > Alternatives exist, yep. But for me it's no only this or only that > application question. It's about dynamic choice. > Of course you have your motivation My fear is that you are somewhat underestimating the effort that such an endeavour entails. I might be wrong, of course. Anyway, I was just requesting an effort on Androidmail. It might be you, Arun or anyone else ;-) My case for Androidmail is that it could be one of the steps (for me) in the process of abandoning Gmail. Again: I might be wrong ! Thanks for engaging ;-) --f403043e6bf4b288550558e808d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2017-09-11 12:31 GMT+02:00 ng0 <ng0@infotropique.org>= :
Arun Isaac transcribed 0.4K bytes:
>
> > I was wondering if anyone would work on Astroid mail
> > https://astroidmail.github.io/
> >
> > It seems simpler to package than Thunderbird and it could be extr= emely
> > useful in the short/medium term
>
> Astroid requires external programs like mpop o= r offlineimap to fetch
> mail. So it cannot quite replace Thunderbird for the casual mail
> user. Perhaps, claws-mail or blasa are better alternatives. Bot= h
> claws-mail and balsa are already packaged for Guix.
My only usecase for Thunderbird is Enigmail and its coming GNUnet in= tegration
done in corporation of pEp (and GNUnet) and the Enigmail team.

ok


Personal opinion: Thunderbird is really terrible and I have my reasons
why I stopped using it so long ago I stopped counting or caring for its
existence (must've been around '99 or '00 maybe...).

right


Nevertheless it is a mandatory tool for some people who can't switch easily and I doubt anyone will embrace the task of getting Thunderbird
into Guix with joy.

right
So far I'm hitting the first dr=C3=B6mpels (road bumpers) in the build = process
with a reference within Thunderbird.

Wrt the earlier emails: yes, my intention (also for Icecat/Firefox) is to provide Addons via Guix to get rid of yet another point of authority
(Mozilla Appstore). It is my understanding that at least a while back
someone was already looking into this and at least the idea was accepted and welcomed.

it s an exciting view of = the future, yes.


Alternatives exist, yep. But for me it's no only this or only that
application question. It's about dynamic choice.
<= br>
Of course you have your motivation

M= y fear is that you are somewhat underestimating the effort that such an end= eavour entails.

I might be wrong, of course.
=
Anyway, I was just requesting an effort on= Androidmail.
It might be you, Arun or anyo= ne else ;-)

My case for Androidmail is that it could be one of the steps (for me)= in the process of abandoning Gmail.

Again: I might be wrong !

Thanks for engaging ;-)<= br>
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