From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Catonano Subject: fonts Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 21:22:11 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f403043891406a6a2d054924406e Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57999) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cgdQW-0004OU-6C for help-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2017 15:22:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cgdQU-0001Jo-Tp for help-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2017 15:22:16 -0500 Received: from mail-wr0-x22f.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22f]:33924) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cgdQU-0001JJ-Mh for help-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2017 15:22:14 -0500 Received: by mail-wr0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id z61so9908473wrc.1 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2017 12:22:13 -0800 (PST) List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+gcggh-help-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" To: help-guix --f403043891406a6a2d054924406e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I put a picture on line http://imgur.com/a/K1yry the fonts on my screen are not that slender, they are awkward, ugly, I don't know What can I do to make them better ? Which font should I install and how can I instruct the Gnome desktop to use them ? In Fedora there's a thing called "Fedy" that automagically does a list of things and one of them is making fonts smooth But I have no idea how it does that, it's a cute tiny window and I just click a few buttons in it. So any suggestion is welcomed Thanks in advance --f403043891406a6a2d054924406e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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the font= s on my screen are not that slender, they are awkward, ugly, I don't kn= ow

What can I do to make them better ? Which font = should I install and how can I instruct the Gnome desktop to use them ?

In Fedora there's a thing called "Fedy"= that automagically does a list of things and one of them is making fonts s= mooth

But I have no idea how it does that, it'= s a cute=C2=A0tiny window and I just click a few buttons in it.=C2=A0

So any suggestion is welcomed

Thanks in advance
--f403043891406a6a2d054924406e-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Niall Dooley Subject: Re: fonts Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 10:46:04 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f403045e7132be6c6e05492f7d31 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33752) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cgpz7-0008K2-Me for help-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2017 04:46:51 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cgpz6-0005AV-FE for help-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2017 04:46:49 -0500 Received: from mail-wr0-x234.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c0c::234]:33487) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cgpz6-00059i-5m for help-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2017 04:46:48 -0500 Received: by mail-wr0-x234.google.com with SMTP id 97so18213995wrb.0 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2017 01:46:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+gcggh-help-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" To: Catonano Cc: help-guix --f403045e7132be6c6e05492f7d31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, On 22 February 2017 at 21:22, Catonano wrote: > I put a picture on line > http://imgur.com/a/K1yry > > the fonts on my screen are not that slender, they are awkward, ugly, I don't > know > > What can I do to make them better ? Which font should I install and how can > I instruct the Gnome desktop to use them ? > > In Fedora there's a thing called "Fedy" that automagically does a list of > things and one of them is making fonts smooth > > But I have no idea how it does that, it's a cute tiny window and I just > click a few buttons in it. > > So any suggestion is welcomed > > Thanks in advance I'm only using Guix on a *foreign* distro and for now have only Source Code Pro (SCP) installed primarily for use within Emacs. I initially followed the instructions here from the manual installing fontconfig and the suggested font packages (as well as SCP) but found that the SCP despite being configured for use in my init.el file was not being used. In fact, the font in Emacs was ugly and my (powerline) modeline was not rendered correctly. To me it seemed the various font packages were conflicting with each other. I subsequently rolled back to remove all font packages except for SCP. I kept Fontconfig though. This still did not improve the situation much and in fact Emacs was using fonts which I had not installed - perhaps it was accessing those available on my foreign distro or some are included in building the emacs package for Guix? I don't know. In any case, I then discovered this thread: http://guix-devel.gnu.narkive.com/xCDp7nhI/patch-gnu-emacs-use-libotf and this one just now https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2015-11/msg00477.html which suggests running 'fc-cache -f' or 'fc-cache -vfr' (from fontconfig) to refresh the font cache. Upon doing this, my issues were resolved and SCP was being correctly used by Emacs. If you're on a foreign distro too you may already have fontconfig installed for that distro so you may have to explicitly run the version installed with Guix. For any unicode characters not supported by SCP, they are either not displayed or Emacs uses some other font although I don't understand from where it gets these other fonts. HTH, Niall --f403045e7132be6c6e05492f7d31 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

On 22 February 2017 at 21:22,= Catonano <catonano@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
> I put a picture on line
> http://imgur.com/a/K1yry
>
> the fonts on my = screen are not that slender, they are awkward, ugly, I don't
> kn= ow
>
> What can I do to make them better ? Which font should I = install and how can
> I instruct the Gnome desktop to use them ?
&= gt;
> In Fedora there's a thing called "Fedy" that auto= magically does a list of
> things and one of them is making fonts smo= oth
>
> But I have no idea how it does that, it's a cute ti= ny window and I just
> click a few buttons in it.
>
> So= any suggestion is welcomed
>
> Thanks in advance

I= 'm only using Guix on a foreign distro and for now have only=C2= =A0Source Code Pro=C2=A0
(SCP) installed primaril= y for use within Emacs. I initially followed the instructions=C2=A0
here=C2=A0 from the manual installing fontconfig and the suggested fon= t packages=C2=A0
(as well as SCP) but found that the SCP despite = being configured for use in my
init.el file was not being used. I= n fact, the font in Emacs was ugly and my=C2=A0
(powerline) model= ine was not rendered correctly. To me it seemed the various=C2=A0
font packages were conflicting with each other. I subsequently rolled back= to remove=C2=A0
all font packages except for SCP. I kept Fontcon= fig though. This still did not improve the=C2=A0
situation much a= nd in fact Emacs was using fonts which I had not installed - perhaps it=C2= =A0
was accessing those available on my foreign distro or some ar= e included in building the=C2=A0
emacs package for Guix? I don= 9;t know.

In any case, I then discovered this thre= ad:

http://= guix-devel.gnu.narkive.com/xCDp7nhI/patch-gnu-emacs-use-libotf

and this one just now

ht= tps://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2015-11/msg00477.html

which suggests running 'fc-cache -f' or = 9;fc-cache -vfr' (from fontconfig) to refresh
the font cache.= Upon doing this, my issues were resolved and SCP was being=C2=A0
correctly used by Emacs. If you're on a foreign distro too you may alr= eady have=C2=A0
fontconfig installed for that distro so you may h= ave to explicitly run the version
installed with Guix.=C2=A0

For any unicode characters not supported by SCP, they = are either not displayed or=C2=A0
Emacs uses some other font alth= ough I don't understand from where it gets these other
fonts.=

HTH,

Niall=C2=A0
=C2=A0

--f403045e7132be6c6e05492f7d31-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Catonano Subject: Re: fonts Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 10:15:57 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11442d4273f0060549432d92 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47571) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1chByr-0006iT-Sg for help-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2017 04:16:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1chByq-0002qK-Mc for help-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2017 04:16:01 -0500 Received: from mail-wm0-x230.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::230]:36271) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1chByq-0002pf-GD for help-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2017 04:16:00 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-x230.google.com with SMTP id v77so9552390wmv.1 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2017 01:15:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+gcggh-help-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" To: Niall Dooley Cc: help-guix --001a11442d4273f0060549432d92 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Niall, 2017-02-23 10:46 GMT+01:00 Niall Dooley : > Hi, > > On 22 February 2017 at 21:22, Catonano wrote: > > > I'm only using Guix on a *foreign* distro and for now have only Source > Code Pro > > > (SCP) installed primarily for use within Emacs. I initially followed the > instructions > here from > the manual installing fontconfig and the suggested font packages > Thank you so much for you email, it was complete and informative. Stitching together some pieces from your email, some from an email of mine about the Emacs experience in Guix going back to a few months ago and from a chat on the channel, I could manage to settle the issue of the fonts for good (I hope) Also I didn' t know about SCP, I set it in Emacs and I'm in the process of deciding whether I like it or not. I'm hearing rumors in my soul telling I will like it ! Thanks Ciao :-) --001a11442d4273f0060549432d92 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Niall,

2017-02-23 10:46 GMT+01:00 Niall Dooley = <dooleyn@gmail.co= m>:
H= i,

On 22 February 2017 at 21:22,= Catonano <caton= ano@gmail.com> wrote:



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I'm only using Guix on a foreign distro and for now have only=C2=A0Source C= ode Pro=C2=A0
(SCP) installed primarily for use within Emacs.= I initially followed the instructions=C2=A0
here= =C2=A0 from the manual installing fontconfig and the suggested font pac= kages=C2=A0

Thank yo= u so much for you email, it was complete and informative.

Stitching together some pieces from your email, some from an email of mine= about the Emacs experience in Guix going back to a few months ago and from= a chat on the channel, I could manage to settle the issue of the fonts for= good (I hope)

Also I didn' t know about SCP, I set i= t in Emacs and I'm in the process of deciding whether I like it or not.=
I'm hearing rumors in my soul telling I will like it !
Thanks
Ciao=C2=A0 :-)
<= /div> --001a11442d4273f0060549432d92--