From: Catonano <catonano@gmail.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: my latest blog post
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 07:59:06 +0200 [thread overview]
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2018-06-08 15:49 GMT+02:00 Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org>:
> Hello!
>
> Catonano <catonano@gmail.com> skribis:
>
> > In this post I discuss Guix
> >
> > And I discuss Guile too
> >
> > I understand that the language is strong and I expect someone to be upset
> >
> > But I feel this is due
> >
> > Happy reading
> >
> > http://catonano.v22018025836661967.nicesrv.de/the-gnu-community.html
>
> Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I pretty much agree with the kind
> words about the Guix group. ;-)
>
> I didn’t know (I suppose I didn’t pay attention) to what happened to you
> in Guile land, and I’m sad you experienced it and felt bad about the
> whole story.
>
> I feel that “GNU is toxic” and “Guile is toxic” are unhelpful, though.
> I mean, we are GNU, and we are Guile. GNU has its own set of problems
> that we’ll have to deal with, and it’s a very big organization with its
> own history etc., so improving things is difficult. But Guile is a
> small community, and I’m sure we can improve.
>
I agree that there's room for improvement
That's the reason why I wrote that post
I could have silently drift away and maybe move to Racket or to Pharo or to
knitting fishing nets, as thousands of people have already done
I thought that in providing my cut on the Guile experience I was providing
ground on which to operate
It was what I could do to help the Guile community to improve a bit.
I was maybe slightly presumptuos, yes
> To me, the lesson as a Guile co-maintainer is that we should be paying
> more attention in general. I consider myself partly responsible for
> this in that, although I’m still officially co-maintainer,
Ah I didn't know this
I thought you were a _former_ comantainer
Had I nown you were still a comantainer, I wold have pinged you, when the
accident happened
I refrained from pinging you because I had understood that you had
explicitly stripped yourself of the Guile responsibility in order to
dedicate your efforts to Guix
> I haven’t
> been paying much attention to what’s going on on the Guile channels. We
> shouldn’t let hostile conversations like the one you experienced on
> #guile through.
Definitely. I'm glad you acnowledge this
> Perhaps what we need is someone to step up and help out
> with Guile? We should all care.
>
Should any initiative to improve the Guile channels come out of this, I
would consider this a huge success of my post 😊
>
> Thank you,
> Ludo’.
>
>
Thank you !
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Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-07 15:25 my latest blog post Catonano
2018-06-07 16:28 ` Joshua Branson
2018-06-08 4:24 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-06-08 6:18 ` Fis Trivial
2018-06-08 14:02 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-08 8:25 ` Catonano
2018-06-08 13:51 ` Fis Trivial
2018-06-08 14:25 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-09 7:47 ` Catonano
2018-06-09 12:24 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-09 13:07 ` Catonano
2018-06-09 15:29 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-06-09 13:51 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-06-07 17:03 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-06-07 19:40 ` Catonano
2018-06-08 9:39 ` Nils Gillmann
2018-06-08 9:45 ` Catonano
2018-06-08 18:05 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-06-09 7:00 ` Catonano
2018-06-09 10:39 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-09 10:52 ` Catonano
2018-06-09 12:14 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-09 13:03 ` Catonano
2018-06-10 10:53 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-06-07 18:11 ` Thorsten Wilms
2018-06-07 21:45 ` Alex Vong
2018-06-08 9:15 ` Julien Lepiller
2018-06-08 9:34 ` Clément Lassieur
2018-06-08 9:45 ` Julien Lepiller
2018-06-08 13:50 ` Widen info Oleg Pykhalov
2018-06-08 13:59 ` Julien Lepiller
2018-06-08 13:49 ` my latest blog post Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-09 5:59 ` Catonano [this message]
2018-06-09 22:49 ` myglc2
2018-06-10 0:51 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-06-10 6:55 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-06-10 9:07 ` Catonano
2018-06-10 9:29 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-10 9:30 ` Catonano
2018-06-10 10:37 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-10 10:45 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-06-10 12:06 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-06-10 7:58 ` Catonano
2018-06-10 9:26 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-10 9:27 ` Catonano
2018-06-10 19:13 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-10 8:07 ` Catonano
2018-06-10 19:23 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-10 8:17 ` my latest blog post [everyone, please take a cooldown break] Nils Gillmann
2018-06-10 13:33 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-06-10 14:18 ` Gábor Boskovits
2018-06-10 14:37 ` Kei Kebreau
2018-06-11 6:01 ` swedebugia
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